2-May-89 01:52:07-MDT,2924;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Tue, 2 May 89 01:30:38 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #107 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Tue, 2 May 89 Volume 89 : Issue 107 Today's Topics: JUGG'LER 128 V3.4 Looking for Tarbell Electronics ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 27 Apr 89 14:10:00 GMT From: jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!utgpu!utzoo!mnetor!tmsoft!masnet!canremote!m..garamszeghy@rutgers.edu (M. GARAMSZEGHY) Subject: JUGG'LER 128 V3.4 Announcing the release of: .. Jugg'ler-128 version 3.4 ++++++++++++++++++++++++ .. Jugg'ler-128, from Herne Data Systems Ltd. of Toronto, provides automatic read and write support for more than 150 types of 3-1/2 and 5-1/4 inch CP/M disks (and also lets you format new disks) on your C-128 in CP/M mode with a 1571 or 1581 disk drive. You can even get Jugg'ler to auto-install up to 3 default disk types automatically on a cold boot. .. Version 3.4 of the Jugg'ler-128 CP/M disk utility for the C-128 is now available. Version 3.4 features support for several new types of disks including COLECO ADAM CP/M and SUPERBRAIN formats. .. .. Jugg'ler works with all versions of C-128 CP/M. (NOTE: IT DOES NOT WORK UNDER GENERIC CP/M DUE TO HARDWARE FEATURES OF THE COMMODORE 128). Jugg'ler is available for only $19.95 US or $22.95 CDN, including postage and handling. For more information, or to order, contact: .. Herne Data Systems Ltd. P.O. Box 714, Station C, Toronto, Ontario CANADA M6J 3S1 .. In the US, Jugg'ler is also available from: Poseidon Electronics 103 Waverly Place New York, NY 10011 .. TEL (212) 777-9515 --- * Via ProDoor 2.9a --- MaS Relayer v1.00.00 Message gatewayed by MaS Network Software and Consulting/HST Internet: m..garamszeghy@canremote.uucp UUCP: ...!tmsoft!masnet!canremote!m..garamszeghy ------------------------------ Date: 1 May 89 14:23:15 GMT From: shorty!matt@speedy.wisc.edu (Matt Schaefer) Subject: Looking for Tarbell Electronics [munch :] I just picked up an S-100 box with a Tarbell model 3033 Z80 board and CP/M 2.2. It looks like it's booting, but it doesn't talk to the console. The schematic for the CPU/IO board seems to have been removed out of the manual. I tried contacting Tarbell from the info in the manual but they have either moved or gone out of business. If somebody knows where they are or has a schematic, please mail me. Thanks in advance, Matt Schaefer matt@cs.wisc.edu ...!{harvard,rutgers,ucbvax}!uwvax!matt ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 3-May-89 02:14:47-MDT,2021;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Wed, 3 May 89 01:30:11 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #108 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Wed, 3 May 89 Volume 89 : Issue 108 Today's Topics: CP/M WordStar? Spelling checker routines ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 28 Apr 89 15:41:31+0200 From: Mitchell Wyle Subject: CP/M WordStar? >From lavi!lavi.uucp!wyle Fri Apr 28 15:37:57 1989 remote from ethz This WordStar discussion raises a question I had been meaning to ask: Can one program macros in wordstar? In 10 years of using many different text editors, I have become used to macros. If it can't do macros, what about the wordstar clones or the turbo-pascal editor. Thank y'all in advance (again). -Mitch (wyle@ethz.uucp) ------------------------------ Date: 3 May 89 02:10:48 GMT From: cca.ucsf.edu!root@cgl.ucsf.edu (Systems Staff) Subject: Spelling checker routines In article <11348@tekecs.GWD.TEK.COM>, andrew@frip.wv.tek.com (Andrew Klossner) writes: > > The approach used in the spelling corrector component of the Unica(tm) > utility set was to look through a (separate) dictionary of commonly > misspelled words, which includes the correct spelling: Another approach (if you are really enthusiastic) is to generate the soundex code for the word to look up and use this to access a copy of the dictionary. Thos Sumner (thos@cca.ucsf.edu) BITNET: thos@ucsfcca (The I.G.) (...ucbvax!ucsfcgl!cca.ucsf!thos) U.S. Mail: Thos Sumner, Computer Center, Rm U-76, UCSF San Francisco, CA 94143-0704 OS|2 -- an Operating System for puppets. #include ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 4-May-89 02:10:24-MDT,5858;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 4 May 89 01:30:45 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #109 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Thu, 4 May 89 Volume 89 : Issue 109 Today's Topics: Beginner's questions Synchronization Error (2 msgs) VT100 for the Osborne 1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 May 89 18:21-0400 From: David.Slonosky%QueensU.CA@QUCDN.QueensU.CA Subject: Beginner's questions Well, here come a bunch of charming, naive questions to warm all your hearts. :-) I have a 64 kB machine, running at a blistering 2 MHz (zow!) and want to know what kind of commercial and PD software is available for it. I can access FTP, but have no idea where to look or what to look for. My OS is CP/M 2.2. Specifically, I am looking for: a) Some sort of interpreter or compiler with accompanying decent docs. b) A database which I can use for filing away my journal references. c) A spreadsheet which handles scientific notation. d) A word processor, doesn't have to be too fancy. In fact, I don't like these new fangled ones like WordPerfect too much. :-) In addition: a) A good introductory manual to CP/M, as detailed with respect to how the OS works as possible (but not -too- esoteric). b) Information on how to use the printer driver I got with my machine to try and determine what sort of printer I should buy. I know that I require one with a serial interface -- will ANY serial interface do? Boy...those should do for starters. If I think of any more, I'll zing them out. :-) Thanks muchly. __________________________________ | | David Slonosky/QueensU/CA,"",CA | Know thyself? | SLONOSKY@QUCDN | If I knew myself, I'd run away. | |__________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: 3 May 89 21:18:32 GMT From: paravia@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Mark David Kakatsch) Subject: Synchronization Error Hello. I've had a CPM 2.2 boot disk for a while, but just recently managed to get a hold of the MOVCPM program for it. When I ran it to make a 56K version (using "CPM 56 *"), I got a sync error. This means that the serial numbers in the MOVCPM program and in the CPM on the disk don't match. The only way out of this is to change the serial numbers to match. Is there any way of doing this without having to go through the problem of disassembly, changing code, reassembling, etc...? I have a disk editor, but I don't know where the serial number is stored on a CPM 2.2. disk. Also, is there any way I can use something like DDT to change the number in the MOVCPM program? Thanks for any help! Mark (paravia@csd4.milw.wisc.edu) -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Albert Einstein got his name after he got| paravia@csd4.milw.wisc.edu. | | smashed from drinking only only one stein| uwmcsd1!uwmcsd4!paravia | | of beer. Hence; Albert Einstein. | | ------------------------------ Date: 4 May 89 02:32:31 GMT From: xanth!rlb@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Robert Lee Bailey) Subject: Synchronization Error In article <2382@csd4.milw.wisc.edu> paravia@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Mark David Kakatsch) writes: >Hello. I've had a CPM 2.2 boot disk for a while, but just recently managed to >get a hold of the MOVCPM program for it. When I ran it to make a 56K version >(using "CPM 56 *"), I got a sync error. This means that the serial numbers in >the MOVCPM program and in the CPM on the disk don't match. The only way out of >this is to change the serial numbers to match. Is there any way of doing this >without having to go through the problem of disassembly, changing code, >reassembling, etc...? I have a disk editor, but I don't know where the serial >number is stored on a CPM 2.2. disk. Also, is there any way I can use something >like DDT to change the number in the MOVCPM program? > Its been a while, but, as best I recall, the serial number is located in the first 6 bytes at the start of BDOS. To patch it you will need to know the starting address of BDOS. There are several programs that will find the address for you: PROBE, SYSTEM, SURVEY, or STATUS. When you find the BDOS entry, it should start on a boundry like xx00H. The actual BDOS entry point is xx06H. I believe that the bytes between xx00H & xx06H contain the serial number of your CP/M. I am not sure where the serial number is located in MOVCPM. Maybe some other kind soul can tell you where it is in MOVCPM. Hope this helps. Bob Bailey ------------------------------ Date: 30 Apr 89 05:33:00 GMT From: pitt!darth!insight!bhh@cadre.dsl.pittsburgh.edu (Brian Hughes) Subject: VT100 for the Osborne 1 > I just got my hands on a Xerox CP/M computer which I > would like to use > extensively as a terminal. I've tried it out, > assuming that it > emulates a VT52 (which I'm not sure about), and It emulates a televideo 920 FidoNet : 1:129/65.1 Insight BBS UUCP/SEAdog/Opus (412) 487-3701 UUCP : ..!{uunet|sundc|rlgvax|netxcom|decuac|}!hadron!insight!bhh : ..!pitt!darth!insight!bhh : ..{psuvax1|decvax|cadre|}!idis!insight!bhh USnail : 517 Sangree Rd., Pittsburgh, PA 15237 (412) 486-4010 ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 5-May-89 02:07:28-MDT,4123;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 5 May 89 01:30:27 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #110 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Fri, 5 May 89 Volume 89 : Issue 110 Today's Topics: CP/M drivers for Corvus 10 meg hard drives CP/M WordStar? Multitech MIC-504 VT100 for the Osborne 1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 4 May 89 14:48:21 GMT From: sunybcs!oswego!dab@rutgers.edu (Dave Bozak) Subject: CP/M drivers for Corvus 10 meg hard drives HELP! We have a working Corvus 10 Meg disk with controller but do not have the drivers necessary to use it. Can any one supply a driver? We do not have any reasonable documentation for this drive, either. If anyone has any, I will happily pay for copying costs! -Paul Tymann Department of Computer Science SUNY College at Oswego Oswego, NY 13126 (315) 341-2687 tymann@rocky.oswego.edu {rutgers,rochester}!sunybcs!oswego!rocky!tymann ------------------------------ Date: 4 May 89 09:43:52 GMT From: amelia!pioneer.arc.nasa.gov!samlb@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Sam Bassett RCD) Subject: CP/M WordStar? The answer is: Yes, sort of. Wordstar 4.0 has a sort of macro-recording and replaying facility connected to the key -- You can record up to about 256 characters (I think) which will be associated with a letter, and stored on disk. To replay the macro, hit and a letter -- for instance, I have a macro to delete all *.BAK files (y*.bak^M) in the E key, so I just type E to wipe out the BAKs . . . If this will do (and you can call another macro from a macro, but I don't know how deep you can nest 'em) for your purposes, then yes, WS _does_ have macros -- otherwise, sorrrreeeeeeeeeeeeee . . . Sam'l Bassett, Sterling Software @ NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field CA 94035 Work: (415) 694-4792; Home: (415) 454-7282 samlb%well@lll-crg.ARPA samlb@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov := 'Sterling doesn't _have_ opinions -- much less NASA!' Sam'l Bassett, Sterling Software @ NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field CA 94035 Work: (415) 694-4792; Home: (415) 454-7282 samlb%well@lll-crg.ARPA samlb@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov := 'Sterling doesn't _have_ opinions -- much less NASA!' ------------------------------ Date: 4 May 89 19:42:57 GMT From: pacbell!sactoh0!ianj@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Ian R. Justman) Subject: Multitech MIC-504 I would like to know how many people out there use the Multitech MIC-504. I would like to know if anyone has successfully disassembled the BIOS for I would like to get ZCPR3 to run with it. Could someone provide me the source code (in Zilog mnemonics)? Thanks in advance. -- ############################################################# # PRIVATE # SAC-UNIX, Sacramento, Ca. # # PARKING # UUCP=...pacbell!sactoh0 # ############################################################# ------------------------------ Date: 3 May 89 19:00:49 GMT From: well!bandy@apple.com (Andrew Scott Beals) Subject: VT100 for the Osborne 1 As configured from the factory, the Osborne 1 would properly handle 300 and 1200 baud. Given the (stupid) architecture of the machine, even 1200 baud was pushing it if you were typing at any rate of speed. 19200 baud is theoretically possible but as that's the divide by one rate in the 6850 (sio chip), the characters that you get back are about half garbage. If you doubled the rate of the clock into the 6850, you could then get 600, 2400 and 38.5k baud, with the latter once again unreliable. There simply wasn't any excuse on Lee Felsenstein's part to design the machine the way he did. ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 6-May-89 01:43:33-MDT,6665;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Sat, 6 May 89 01:30:19 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #111 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Sat, 6 May 89 Volume 89 : Issue 111 Today's Topics: Bug in ZMP 1.4's dialing routine CP/M drivers for Corvus 10 meg hard drives CP/M WordStar? SYNC. ERROR cont'd. TurboDos OS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 5 May 89 20:13:44 GMT From: amdahl!pacbell!sactoh0!ianj@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Ian R. Justman) Subject: Bug in ZMP 1.4's dialing routine There is a slight bug in ZMP 1.4's dialing routine. It sends a linefeed as well as a carriage return to the modem causing some modems to hang up before dialing. Here's where the faulty code resides: 0B82 LD HL,0Ah 0B85 PUSH HL 0B86 CALL 1437 To fix this bug, put zeroes in locations 0B82h-0B88h (opcode for NOP) and then save the program using the command: A>SAVE 56 ZMP.COM Happy modeming! -- ############################################################# # PRIVATE # SAC-UNIX, Sacramento, Ca. # # PARKING # UUCP=...pacbell!sactoh0 # ############################################################# ------------------------------ Date: 5 May 89 18:45:52 GMT From: pilchuck!amc-gw!sigma!bill@uunet.uu.net (William Swan) Subject: CP/M drivers for Corvus 10 meg hard drives In article <1224@oswego.Oswego.EDU> tymann@rocky.oswego.edu(Paul Tymann) writes: > We have a working Corvus 10 Meg disk with controller but >do not have the drivers necessary to use it. Can any one supply >a driver? What kind of system do you have? If it's an Alspa, I have the BIOS (and probably disk formatter) for the Corvus, and probably also a set of old (v1.22) TurboDOS drivers, which might be hackable into what you want. At least a usable subset of the command set could be extracted... -- William Swan ..uunet.uu.net!amc!sigma!bill Send USmail address for info: Innocent but in prison in Washington State for 13.5 years: Ms. Debbie Runyan: incarcerated 01/1989, scheduled release 07/2002. In now: 0 years, 3 months, 2 weeks, 0 days. ------------------------------ Date: 5 May 89 13:49:04 GMT From: bsu-cs!neubauer@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Paul Neubauer) Subject: CP/M WordStar? In article <1887@amelia.nas.nasa.gov> samlb@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov.UUCP (Sam Bassett RCD), in reply to a question on macro recording and playback ability in CP/M wordprocessors/editors, writes: > > The answer is: Yes, sort of. > > Wordstar 4.0 has a sort of macro-recording and replaying facility >connected to the key -- You can record up to about 256 characters >(I think) which will be associated with a letter, and stored on disk. I more or less decided that it was not really worth upgrading to WS 4.0, and the macro capability of WS4 certainly did not strongly provide me with any such reason to upgrade. For macros, it seems to me that WS4 provides no more, and probably less, than some of the TSR-type keyboard enhancers. Qwikkey and Magickey (I think I have the spelling of both correct) are PD. I have used Qwikkey. It does have some limitations, but works well and the price is right. I currently use a commercial product XtraKey, which not only has far less restrictive limits (i.e. as much as you can stand to spare the RAM for, though, of course, you can also make it read a disk file), but in addition allows a certain amount of conditional application and branching and allows waits for user input. For example, I have a Turbo Pascal XtraKey macro where I type one key and it types: "PROCEDURE " then waits for me to input a name, after which it types "()BEGIN%%END; {duplicate of the name i typed in}" and then moves the cursor back up between the parentheses for me to type in the formal parameters. I use the "%%" as a placeholder and have another key bound to find %% and delete them, leaving me at the place where they were. All in all, this is less impressive than what you could do with a real programmable editor like GnuEmacs or VAX/TPU, but is more than you could do with WordStar 4's fairly primitive macros or with Qwikkey. Xtrakey also comes with some decent documentation and some examples, including a "go to page: " macro where you can enter a page # in response to a prompt (for WS 3.3). I recommend it. XtraKey is a trademark of Xpert Software. If anyone wants their address, I can look it up. Sorry I don't have it at hand at the moment. Oh, BTW, Xtrakey costs about $20-25. Disclaimer: I have NO CONNECTION at all with Xpert Software except as a satisfied user. -- Paul Neubauer neubauer@bsu-cs.bsu.edu neubauer@bsu-cs.UUCP !{iuvax,pur-ee}!bsu-cs!neubauer ------------------------------ Date: 5 May 89 21:50:50 GMT From: paravia@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Mark David Kakatsch) Subject: SYNC. ERROR cont'd. Hello. Using a disk editor and DDT, I was able to change the serial numbers on the disk, and the number on the MOVCPM program to 00 00 00 00 00 00. After changing the number in MOVCPM w/ DDT, I did a "SAVE 3 MOVCPM". I then re-booted my system, and typed "MOVCPM 56 *". I still got a SYNC. ERROR. Are there any other conditions that have to be met for MOVCPM to work? (Note, I'm using Tarbell CPM 2.2, which I got with my system, and MOVCPM 2.2. which came with a Tarbell double density controller I just bought...). Thanks for any help! Mark -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Albert Einstein got his name after he got| paravia@csd4.milw.wisc.edu. | | smashed from drinking only only one stein| uwmcsd1!uwmcsd4!paravia | | of beer. Hence; Albert Einstein. | | ------------------------------ Date: 5 May 89 22:53:47 GMT From: att!homxb!hou2d!tsm@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (T.MAGG) Subject: TurboDos OS Hi, I'm looking for the 8/16 bit (master/slave) version of TurboDos for ICM products. TurboDos is a CPM like OS designed to work with a master/slave hardware set-up. If anyone has a copy, I would be willing to buy. Thanks, Tom ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 7-May-89 01:39:35-MDT,4648;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Sun, 7 May 89 01:30:44 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #112 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Sun, 7 May 89 Volume 89 : Issue 112 Today's Topics: CP/M WordStar? gnuucp where? Listserv foul-up (2 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 6 May 89 06:40:07 GMT From: zinn!mem@decvax.dec.com (Mark E. Mallett) Subject: CP/M WordStar? In article <8904281337.AA08625@lavi.uucp> wyle@lavi.UUCP (Mitchell Wyle) writes: >This WordStar discussion raises a question I had been meaning to >ask: Can one program macros in wordstar? In 10 years of using >many different text editors, I have become used to macros. > >If it can't do macros, what about the wordstar clones or the >turbo-pascal editor. You could always use TED, a Z-80 CP/M-based TECO clone that I wrote about 10 years ago. It's a cross between TOPS-10 TEC124 and RSX TECO-11 (without the screen functions). (Of course, I'm using JOVE to edit this message :-) ) -mm- -- Mark E. Mallett Zinn Computer Co/ PO Box 4188/ Manchester NH/ 03103 Bus. Phone: 603 645 5069 Home: 603 424 8129 BIX: mmallett uucp: mem@zinn.MV.COM ( ...{decvax|elrond|harvard}!zinn!mem ) Northern MA and Southern NH consultants: Ask me about MV.COM ------------------------------ Date: 7 May 89 03:37:55 GMT From: ulysses!nsscb!ameyer@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Andy Meyer) Subject: gnuucp where? Can someone tell me where I can get a copy of 'gnuucp'? It is rumored to run under CP/M, and I'm looking for something which will let me send and receive mail and/or files using my Altos 5-15ad. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks, Andy -- Andreas Meyer N2FYE AT&T National Systems Support Center uucp: ..!rutgers!psuvax1!nsscb!ameyer or: nsscb!ameyer@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu "Ok, Mickey's a mouse, Donald's a duck, Pluto's a dog. So what's Goofy?" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 May 89 09:44:43 EST From: "John S. Fisher" Subject: Listserv foul-up On Saturday 29 April 1989 at about 9:16 pm EDT, LISTSERV@RPIECS started rejecting all mail from the mailer at RPICICGE. In actual fact, RPIECS and RPICICGE are physically the same BITNET node--the RPICICGE name is being phased out in favor of RPIECS--so the situation is somewhat embarassing. At any rate, the net effect was that all mail to LISTSERV@RPICICGE was rejected while all mail to LISTSERV@RPIECS was processed per normal (even though the two are one in the same server). The problem went unnoticed until Wednesday morning. LISTSERV and the mailer were forced to kiss-and-make-up, and a huge backlog of rejected mail was transferred back to LISTSERV for processing. ...and now for the plea: If you are still sending requests to LISTSERV at the RPICICGE address, please cease and desist. Use the RPIECS node name instead. That way, your requests won't be delayed if the problem recurs, and also you won't be left in the dark when the RPICICGE node name is discontinued completely. /JSFisher ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 May 89 09:44:43 EST From: "John S. Fisher" Subject: Listserv foul-up On Saturday 29 April 1989 at about 9:16 pm EDT, LISTSERV@RPIECS started rejecting all mail from the mailer at RPICICGE. In actual fact, RPIECS and RPICICGE are physically the same BITNET node--the RPICICGE name is being phased out in favor of RPIECS--so the situation is somewhat embarassing. At any rate, the net effect was that all mail to LISTSERV@RPICICGE was rejected while all mail to LISTSERV@RPIECS was processed per normal (even though the two are one in the same server). The problem went unnoticed until Wednesday morning. LISTSERV and the mailer were forced to kiss-and-make-up, and a huge backlog of rejected mail was transferred back to LISTSERV for processing. ...and now for the plea: If you are still sending requests to LISTSERV at the RPICICGE address, please cease and desist. Use the RPIECS node name instead. That way, your requests won't be delayed if the problem recurs, and also you won't be left in the dark when the RPICICGE node name is discontinued completely. /JSFisher {Jv ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 8-May-89 01:44:38-MDT,2003;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 8 May 89 01:30:21 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #113 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Mon, 8 May 89 Volume 89 : Issue 113 Today's Topics: apple2c-cp/m: discformat? MV.COM? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 6 May 89 20:49:25 GMT From: mcvax!unido!cosmo!fifi%cosmo.UUCP@uunet.uu.net (A.F.Zinser) Subject: apple2c-cp/m: discformat? who in heaven (or on earth) can tell me, which disc format is used on a apple2c with nz80//c-card running cp/m 2.23? i need the hard facts (tracks, sectors and so on) as well as the disc-parameter-block. thanks, axel +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | _ _ ! ! Axel F. Zinser (_!_) (_!_) ...uunet!mcvax!unido!cosmo!fifi | | Hannover, BRD ! ! fifi@cosmo.UUCP ! ! ! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 May 89 19:46 PDT From: Steven Russell Subject: MV.COM? > Mark E. Mallett Zinn Computer Co/ PO Box 4188/ Manchester NH/ 03103 > Bus. Phone: 603 645 5069 Home: 603 424 8129 BIX: mmallett > uucp: mem@zinn.MV.COM ( ...{decvax|elrond|harvard}!zinn!mem ) > Northern MA and Southern NH consultants: Ask me about MV.COM > > ------------------------------ Ok Mark, I'll bite: What's the deal with MV.COM? -Steven Russell srussell@uoneuro.uoregon.edu srussell@uoneuro.bitnet ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 11-May-89 02:14:24-MDT,2659;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 11 May 89 01:30:23 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #114 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Thu, 11 May 89 Volume 89 : Issue 114 Today's Topics: modern Z80 operating systems (beyond CP/M) MV.COM? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 10 May 89 16:08:38 GMT From: voder!pyramid!ncc!atha!auvax.AthabascaU.CA!tech@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Richard Loken) Subject: modern Z80 operating systems (beyond CP/M) From an accumulation of postings and a recent subscription to the Computer Journal I am slowly learning that it is to my advantage to get one of the replacements/overlays for CP/M and run it on my dear old Trash 80 Model II. I have accumulated an assortment of names such as TurboDos, ZDOS, ZCPR3,... Can any of the enlightened explain what all these are? For instance: Do they replace the CP/M CCP? Are they total CP/M replacement or what? What do I need to get such animals running on my little grey box? Why would I want to get one or more of these? What is the history behind these packages? Any reading material you can recommend on the subject? Any thing else that is relevant? These things are very inexpensive - as is almost anything CP/M so I am inclined to spend a little money and experiment. ********* 73 ********** Richard Loken VE6BSV . **** .. **** Athabasca University .... **** Athabasca, Alberta Canada ..........**** tech@athabascau.ca alberta!auvax!tech ------------------------------ Date: 10 May 89 06:07:21 GMT From: zinn!mem@decvax.dec.com (Mark E. Mallett) Subject: MV.COM? In article <8905080701.AA09260@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> SRUSSELL@UONEURO.UOREGON.EDU (Steven Russell) writes: > >Ok Mark, I'll bite: What's the deal with MV.COM? Oh heck, perhaps I should have said "mail me about MV.COM" instead of "ask me..." Shoot. Anyway, MV.COM is a domain park of significance only to this region (NH and MA, as stated in the signature). -- Mark E. Mallett Zinn Computer Co/ PO Box 4188/ Manchester NH/ 03103 Bus. Phone: 603 645 5069 Home: 603 424 8129 BIX: mmallett uucp: mem@zinn.MV.COM ( ...{decvax|elrond|harvard}!zinn!mem ) Northern MA and Southern NH consultants: Ask (in mail!) about MV.COM ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 13-May-89 02:01:28-MDT,3174;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Sat, 13 May 89 01:30:16 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #115 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Sat, 13 May 89 Volume 89 : Issue 115 Today's Topics: Apple CP/M Coprocessor Wanted UUDECODE.COM VT180 Robin users? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 12 May 89 16:12:54 GMT From: quanta.eng.ohio-state.edu!rcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu!CURRAN@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Curran, Jim) Subject: Apple CP/M Coprocessor Wanted Hello Apple II Users, A research project that I'm working with has a requirement for a PCPI CP/M AppliCard. PCPI doesn't make this coprocessor card anymore so we can't buy one from them. If you have an AppliCard and/or a RamDrive and are willing to sell, please contact me via e-mail or US Mail. No reasonable offer refused. Thank you, Jim Curran curran@eng.ohio-state.edu -or- curran-j@osu-20.ohio-state.edu 2086 Neil Ave #28 Columbus, OH 43210 ------------------------------ Date: FRI 12 MAY 1989 07:27:00 CDT From: The Night Stallion Subject: UUDECODE.COM Last night I downloaded UUDECODE.COM from the directory on SIMTEL20, with the plan to use it on my C128 CP/M, instead of the very slow BASIC version I currently have. I got it converted, and discovered it doesn't work. Should this program work OK on C128 CP/M? (I'm going to try it again, but thought I'd post this now, being that it seems to take a while for my postings to get on the list...) One other thing: Is it possible to get the C128 CP/M system to emulate a VT100 instead of an ADM31? ------------------------------ Brian Piersel BITNET: S1CH@SDSUMUS INTERNET: S1CH@SDSUMUS.BITNET "Beam me up, Scotty!" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 May 89 15:34:40 edt From: crone%cuavax.dnet@netcon.cua.edu Subject: VT180 Robin users? I've had a DEC Robin (VT100 with 4MHz Z80 CPM system built in) for several years, using it mostly for communications. Recently, I've gotten into moving around graphics files, and the 170K floppies are becoming a problem. I have a file (by Bernie Eiben, I think) describing how to get the 'side select' bit from the floppy controler chip, to use with double sided disks. I know several years ago there were peoople using 96 TPI drives with the Robin. What I don't know is where to get software to format the DSDD, DSQD or even SSQD disks once the hardware mods are made. I understand ZCPR2 or 3 supported them, but looking thru the directories on RPIECS and NDSUVM1 I haven't found what I need. Anybody out there still using the Robin with upgraded floppies, or know where to get info about it? Thanks! Tom Crone CRONE@CUA on Bitnet CRONE%CUAVAX.DNET@NETCON.CUA.EDU on Internet ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 15-May-89 01:47:36-MDT,1099;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 15 May 89 01:30:13 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #116 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Mon, 15 May 89 Volume 89 : Issue 116 Today's Topics: UUDECODE.COM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: SUN 14 MAY 1989 15:00:00 CDT From: The Night Stallion Subject: UUDECODE.COM Please ignore my previous message regarding UUDECODE.COM and the C128. I have discovered my problem was with the conversion from Commodore format to CP/M format, and the entire file was not getting transferred. Now I have it transferred properly, and it works fine. ------------------------------ Brian Piersel BITNET: S1CH@SDSUMUS INTERNET: S1CH@SDSUMUS.BITNET "I think, therefore I am confused." ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 17-May-89 02:11:49-MDT,2942;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Wed, 17 May 89 01:30:27 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #117 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Wed, 17 May 89 Volume 89 : Issue 117 Today's Topics: Wanted: PL/M-80 compiler (2 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 16 May 89 12:43:49 GMT From: mcvax!kth!draken!tut!router!fintuvm.bitnet!fys-eh@uunet.uu.net (Esa Heinonen) Subject: Wanted: PL/M-80 compiler Does anyone know if there is a PL/M-80 compiler (commercial or otherwise) for use in MS-DOS machines? Intel does not sell one, and we need one bad. We have old code to maintain, and converting it to some other language doesn't sound like fun to me... ------------------------------------------------ | Esa Heinonen, University of Turku, Finland | ------------------------------------------------ | Bitnet: FYS-EH at FINTUVM | | Internet: FYS-EH at FINTUVM.UTU.FI or | | FYS-EH at MAMMUTTI.UTU.FI | ------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: 16 May 89 17:22:02 GMT From: crdgw1!steinmetz!sungod!davidsen@uunet.uu.net (William Davidsen) Subject: Wanted: PL/M-80 compiler In article <808FYS-EH@FINTUVM> FYS-EH@FINTUVM.BITNET (Esa Heinonen) writes: | Does anyone know if there is a PL/M-80 compiler (commercial | or otherwise) for use in MS-DOS machines? | | Intel does not sell one, and we need one bad. We have old | code to maintain, and converting it to some other language | doesn't sound like fun to me... Here's how to do it... there is an emulator program which allows you to run CP/M-80 programs on a PC. There is a free version and a commercial version, and I can dig up the free version if you can't find it locally. There is also a program which allows running ISIS software under CP/M-80. I believe you could combine these two and do what you want, assuming that you originally developed this stuff on the ISIS PL/M-80. This is really old stuff, but I guess if you really don't want to rewrite you could do it. Post to the cpm and intel groups looking for this stuff. | ------------------------------------------------ | | Esa Heinonen, University of Turku, Finland | | ------------------------------------------------ | | Bitnet: FYS-EH at FINTUVM | | | Internet: FYS-EH at FINTUVM.UTU.FI or | | | FYS-EH at MAMMUTTI.UTU.FI | | ------------------------------------------------ bill davidsen (davidsen@crdos1.crd.GE.COM) {uunet | philabs}!crdgw1!crdos1!davidsen "Stupidity, like virtue, is its own reward" -me ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 18-May-89 02:12:18-MDT,4422;000000000000 Mail-From: KPETERSEN created at 18-May-89 01:42:32 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 18 May 89 01:42:31 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #118 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Thu, 18 May 89 Volume 89 : Issue 118 Today's Topics: Chuck Forsberg's X/Y/Zmodem for Unix and VAX/VMS updated Kermit for CP/M Wanted: PL/M-80 compiler (3 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 17 May 1989 03:35 MDT From: Keith Petersen Subject: Chuck Forsberg's X/Y/Zmodem for Unix and VAX/VMS updated I just received an update of X/Y/Zmodem for Unix and VAX/VMS from Chuck Forsberg. The individual files are in SIMTEL20's directory PD3: and the the convenience of net users I have also included RZSZ0511.ARC which includes all the files in this new version. The archive's member files all have Unix end-of-lines. --Keith Petersen Maintainer of SIMTEL20's CP/M, MSDOS, and MISC archives Internet: w8sdz@WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil [26.2.0.74] Uucp: {ames,decwrl,harvard,rutgers,ucbvax,uunet}!wsmr-simtel20.army.mil!w8sdz ------------------------------ Date: 17 May 89 12:00:29 GMT From: mcvax!kth!sunic!ericom!erix.ericsson.se!euas11g.ericsson.se!euatdt@uunet.uu.net (Torsten Dahlkvist) Subject: Kermit for CP/M Is there anyone who has, or knows where I can get, KERMIT for CP/M? We don't really run CP/M any more, but the need to transfer a bunch of old files has turned up. Since the CP/M-computer isn't on any network, the program has to be on regular old fat 8" diskettes, sent through the snail-mail. Anyone who can help me, please E-mail me a note and I'll get in touch. ------------------------------ Date: 17 May 89 13:07:24 GMT From: n8emr!uncle!oink!jep@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (James E. Prior) Subject: Wanted: PL/M-80 compiler In article <808FYS-EH@FINTUVM> FYS-EH@FINTUVM.BITNET (Esa Heinonen) writes: >Does anyone know if there is a PL/M-80 compiler (commercial >or otherwise) for use in MS-DOS machines? > >Intel does not sell one, and we need one bad. We have old >code to maintain, and converting it to some other language >doesn't sound like fun to me... There's a company down in Florida that sells some products to let you run old ISIS (8080) programs on ordinary PCs. I've been using it at work for a few years. Anything is better than the dreaded blue boxes. The company is Micro Interfaces 16359 N.W. 57th Ave. Hialeah, Florida (USA) 33014 (305) 623-9262 1-800-637-7226 Telex 5106004680 MICRO INTER CO. I think an older address is: Micro Interfaces Corporation Suite #200, 18590 N.W. 67th Avenue Miami, Florida 33015 (305) 823-8088 There programs love to begin each listing file with their stupid header. It really annoys me. To stop their program from generating the stupid headers, use debug to find LST in the .EXE files and change it to lst (lowercase). Good luck, I hope this makes it all the way back to Europe. -- Jim Prior jep@oink osu-cis!n8emr!oink!jep N8KSM ------------------------------ Date: 17 May 89 21:37:51 GMT From: ogccse!littlei!guardian!kenner@husc6.harvard.edu (Ken Reese) Subject: Wanted: PL/M-80 compiler A company called RTCS made an ISIS emulator that runs under MS-DOS. I've seen it used to run several ISIS-based translators and compilers. If the company is still in business it would probably be the best bet for running any ISIS software. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 May 1989 01:37 MDT From: Keith Petersen Subject: Wanted: PL/M-80 compiler Fortran source code for a PL/M-80 compiler has just been added to the SIMTEL20 archives. It's in PD2:PLM80.ARK Perhaps someone with a CP/M Fortran compiler can add executables to the archive and re-upload it to our archives. --Keith Petersen Maintainer of SIMTEL20's CP/M, MSDOS, and MISC archives Internet: w8sdz@WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil [26.2.0.74] Uucp: {ames,decwrl,harvard,rutgers,ucbvax,uunet}!wsmr-simtel20.army.mil!w8sdz ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 19-May-89 05:58:25-MDT,2281;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 19 May 89 01:30:36 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #119 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Fri, 19 May 89 Volume 89 : Issue 119 Today's Topics: Thanks Wanted: PL/M-80 compiler ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 18 May 89 12:03-0400 From: David.Slonosky%QueensU.CA@QUCDN.QueensU.CA Subject: Thanks Thanks for all the help to my questions. I appreciate it. __________________________________ | | David Slonosky/QueensU/CA,"",CA | Know thyself? | SLONOSKY@QUCDN | If I knew myself, I'd run away. | |__________________________________| ------------------------------ Date: 17 May 89 18:11:53 GMT From: ulowell!tegra!vail@bbn.com (Johnathan Vail) Subject: Wanted: PL/M-80 compiler In article <808FYS-EH@FINTUVM> FYS-EH@FINTUVM.BITNET (Esa Heinonen) writes: Does anyone know if there is a PL/M-80 compiler (commercial or otherwise) for use in MS-DOS machines? Intel does not sell one, and we need one bad. We have old code to maintain, and converting it to some other language doesn't sound like fun to me... ------------------------------------------------ | Esa Heinonen, University of Turku, Finland | ------------------------------------------------ I believe Intel *does* sell one for MS-DOS. I was consulting for a company and was working on getting them to get it. I don't think it was cheap, though. Somewhere just this side of $1K. Call your Intel rep again... "Like a clock, they sent, through, a washing machine: come around, make it soon, so alone." -- Syd Barrett _____ | | Johnathan Vail | tegra!N1DXG@ulowell.edu |Tegra| (508) 663-7435 | N1DXG@145.110-,145.270-,444.2+,448.625- ----- ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 20-May-89 02:30:05-MDT,5915;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Sat, 20 May 89 01:30:35 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #120 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Sat, 20 May 89 Volume 89 : Issue 120 Today's Topics: ADAM CP/M DISKS ADAM USERS. INFO-CPM Digest V89 #117 QX-10 and a MASM? Wanted: PL/M-80 compiler (2 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 1 May 89 12:32:00 GMT From: cwjcc!mailrus!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!utgpu!attcan!lsuc!mnetor!tmsoft!masnet!canremote!m..garamszeghy@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (M. GARAMSZEGHY) Subject: ADAM CP/M DISKS Neil: There is a program called Jugg'ler-128 for the Commodore C-128 operating in CP/M mode that will read, write and format ADAM single sided CP/M disks on a C-128 with a 1571 drive. The price is $22.95 CDN or $19.95 US from: Herne Data Systems Ltd. PO Box 714, Station C, Toronto, ON, M6J 3S1. I do not know of any for the IBM that read/write ADAM CP/M. miklos g. --- * Via ProDoor 2.9a --- MaS Relayer v1.00.00 Message gatewayed by MaS Network Software and Consulting/HST Internet: m..garamszeghy@canremote.uucp UUCP: ...!tmsoft!masnet!canremote!m..garamszeghy ------------------------------ Date: 1 May 89 05:46:00 GMT From: cwjcc!mailrus!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!utgpu!attcan!lsuc!mnetor!tmsoft!masnet!canremote!neil.begin@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (NEIL BEGIN) Subject: ADAM USERS. From: Neil.Begin@CRS (Neil Begin) Orga: Toronto.Ontario.Canada Are there any ADAM Users out there? Does an ADAM Use-NET exist? Regarding the IBM, is there a program which will format/use ADAM C/PM disks on the IBMs? |----------------------------------------------------------------------| | | "Mostly interested in ADAM/ADAM Users" | | A D A M i t e | Neil Begin - So Named! At Canada Remote Systems | | | | |----------------------------------------------------------------------| --- * Via ProDoor 2.9a --- MaS Relayer v1.00.00 Message gatewayed by MaS Network Software and Consulting/HST Internet: neil.begin@canremote.uucp UUCP: ...!tmsoft!masnet!canremote!neil.begin ------------------------------ Date: 18 May 1989 13:43:30 EDT From: Tom Williams Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #117 Digital Research used to market PL/I for both CP/M and MS-DOS. I'm not sure if they are still available. You'd still have to make a translation, PL/I and PL/M aren't as much alike as you might think. -Tom ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 89 11:58 EST From: "Der Vax Kriminal (I'm kinda nice, tho')." Subject: QX-10 and a MASM? Hello! I just bought an EPSON QX-10 *old!) second-handed from a professor here (Hampshire College). Well, the problem is that the computer is "extinct" now, and I am having a difficult and costly (fonbills) time looking for information and software for it. I am in a desperate need for a good Macro Assembler (relocatable, hopefully) for the Z80 (I can live with 8080) processor, and maybe some tips on usiong the QX-10. Games and other neat stuff for CP/M-80 would be good, too, of course. The tech manual for the QX-10 costs $80-ish, and I can't afford that until August or so... Can someone help me? Thnx! John Juncholl Shin (JSHIN@HAMPVMS.bitnet) ------------------------------ Date: 19 May 89 01:46:56 GMT From: n8emr!uncle!oink!jep@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (James E. Prior) Subject: Wanted: PL/M-80 compiler In article <507@atlas.tegra.UUCP> vail@tegra.UUCP (Johnathan Vail) writes: >In article <808FYS-EH@FINTUVM> FYS-EH@FINTUVM.BITNET (Esa Heinonen) writes: > Does anyone know if there is a PL/M-80 compiler (commercial > or otherwise) for use in MS-DOS machines? > > Intel does not sell one, ... > >I believe Intel *does* sell one for MS-DOS. It wouldn't surprise me to find out that Intel sells PL/M-80 to run on MS-DOS, since where I work, we bought PL/M-51 compiler to run under MS-DOS. BEWARE, the MS-DOS version of the PL/M-51 compiler we bought had some sort of copy protection scheme that screwed up our hard disk. One feller lost a lot of work and time because of it. We found it to be unusable and had to go back to the old blue box version. Intel refused to return our money. We got burned. I think we lost a couple grand to Intel, and the only thing we gained was a screwed up hard disk. I'm very leary of Intel's software any more. Good luck -- Jim Prior jep@oink osu-cis!n8emr!oink!jep N8KSM ------------------------------ Date: 18 May 89 13:54:12 GMT From: n8emr!uncle!oink!jep@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (James E. Prior) Subject: Wanted: PL/M-80 compiler In article <208@guardian.UUCP> guardian!kenner@intelhf.hf.intel.com (Ken Reese) writes: >A company called RTCS made an ISIS emulator that runs under MS-DOS. >I've seen it used to run several ISIS-based translators and compilers. If >the company is still in business it would probably be the best bet for >running any ISIS software. We have it here. It's screwy as hell. They must have really worked hard to come up with some of their bugs. When we run a particular assembler, it barfs under ISIM, unless the command line argument file names are of different lengths! I didn't make this up. I don't trust ISIM. -- Jim Prior jep@oink osu-cis!n8emr!oink!jep N8KSM ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 23-May-89 02:18:48-MDT,7764;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Tue, 23 May 89 01:30:29 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #121 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Tue, 23 May 89 Volume 89 : Issue 121 Today's Topics: Anyone out there able to ftp to simtel20? Anyone out there able to ftp to simtel20? (NEED vt100 emulator) (2 msgs) Digital Research 'PL/I' and PL/M Kaypro Kermit Thank You Guys! Wanted: PL/M-80 compiler (2 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 May 1989 18:08 MDT From: Keith Petersen Subject: Anyone out there able to ftp to simtel20? The problem of SIMTEL20 refusing ALL connections is probably caused by an out-dated host table. On March 20 we changed our host IP address. Try this command to your FTP: open 26.2.0.74 If that works, notify your system administrator that he/she needs to update the host table. --Keith Petersen Maintainer of SIMTEL20's CP/M, MSDOS, and MISC archives Internet: w8sdz@WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil [26.2.0.74] Uucp: {ames,decwrl,harvard,rutgers,ucbvax,uunet}!wsmr-simtel20.army.mil!w8sdz ------------------------------ Date: 20 May 89 17:51:45 GMT From: hassell@boulder.colorado.edu (Christopher Hassell) Subject: Anyone out there able to ftp to simtel20? (NEED vt100 emulator) We're basically only looking for that...for a Northstar Advantage (assembly source probably?). REALLLLY acheing for a vt100 emulator (I may write one!!!) Any and all help would be appreciated Thanks all. ### C>H> ### ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 1989 18:12 MDT From: Keith Petersen Subject: Anyone out there able to ftp to simtel20? (NEED vt100 emulator) QTERM41D does VT100 emulation. Here is a copy of the directory listing: Filename Type Bytes CRC Directory PD2: QT6-SB18.ZZ0.1 BINARY 4864 5B4EH QTERM41D.LBR.1 BINARY 44416 253FH QTO-HP1C.AZM.1 BINARY 4992 8150H QTO-XER2.ZZ0.1 BINARY 5504 A132H QTO-ZB10.AZM.1 BINARY 4096 7482H QTP-XER2.AZM.1 BINARY 5504 8D2FH --Keith ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 May 89 14:24:25 EDT From: John C Klensin Subject: Digital Research 'PL/I' and PL/M Tom Williams writes: > Digital Research used to market PL/I for both CP/M and MS-DOS. I'm not sure >if they are still available. You'd still have to make a translation, PL/I and >PL/M aren't as much alike as you might think. Digital Research is still marketing what they describe as PL/I, or at least it keeps showing up in Ads and mailings from them. However... (1) They reduced the staff of their language group to zero or nearly zero some years ago, and announced that most of their language products (including the CP/M and MS-DOS versions of "PL/I") were "mature" and would basically no longer be maintained. As far as I know, this situation and policy is still in effect. These compilers are bug- and mis-feature laden, and you don't even get someone to sympathize when you encounter their special characteristics. (2) PL/M is very similar to PL/I in several respects, but not enough to make translation a worthwhile enterprise in most cases. (3) What Digital Research sells as PL/I is not, and has never been, PL/I as understood by anyone else. The strange restrictions... Now, those things that make it "not PL/I" might conceivably make it easier to get back and forth to PL/M: I don't know PL/M well enough to be competent to judge. Disclaimer: The opinions above are personal ones, and represent neither the official views of MIT nor those of the PL/I Standards Committee, which I chair. ------------------------------ Date: 20 May 89 20:20:00 GMT From: ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!uxh.cso.uiuc.edu!seaney@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu Subject: Kaypro Kermit ***** Kermit for a Kaypro 4/84 ***** I'm looking for a copy of Kermit to be used on a Kaypro 4/84. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Steve Seaney seaney@uiuc.edu.cso.uxe tuba@uiucvmd ------------------------------ Date: 22 May 89 10:22:19 GMT From: mcvax!kth!sunic!ericom!erix.ericsson.se!euas11g.ericsson.se!euatdt@uunet.uu.net (Torsten Dahlkvist) Subject: Thank You Guys! To all you guys who answered my request for CP/M Kermit <2031@erix.ericsson.se>:Thank You! I received a number of responses, so this goes to all of you. It's good to know there are people out there willing and able to help when you need it. (I've cancelled the original request to stop the flood of answers!) My problem was easily solved and I'm about to get started now. If there's any trouble, I may get in touch again. /Torsten Dahlkvist euatdt@euas11g.ericsson.se ------------------------------ Date: 19 May 89 18:38:58 GMT From: pacbell!cpro!asgard@ames.arc.nasa.gov (J.R. Stoner) Subject: Wanted: PL/M-80 compiler From article <26@oink.UUCP>, by jep@oink.UUCP (James E. Prior): > In article <808FYS-EH@FINTUVM> FYS-EH@FINTUVM.BITNET (Esa Heinonen) writes: >>Does anyone know if there is a PL/M-80 compiler (commercial >>or otherwise) for use in MS-DOS machines? >> >>Intel does not sell one, and we need one bad. We have old >>code to maintain, and converting it to some other language >>doesn't sound like fun to me... You have specified "MS-DOG machine" and not running MS-DOG. I suggest you consider the PL/M-80 compiler associated with CP/M-xx for execution under Concurrent DOS. The CDOS is available from Digital Research and the compiler is available from Alexander and Lord. -- | J.R. (May the Source be With You) Stoner "Dying is easy - | {amdahl,hplabs,decwrl}!pacbell!cpro!asgard Comedy is hard." | asgard@cpro.uucp asgard@well.uucp | asgard@wotan.uucp asgard@fafner.uucp ------------------------------ Date: 19 May 89 00:56:57 GMT From: cwjcc!mailrus!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!utgpu!utzoo!mnetor!tmsoft!dptcdc!berner!lethe!gerry@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Gerry) Subject: Wanted: PL/M-80 compiler In article <26@oink.UUCP>, jep@oink.UUCP (James E. Prior) writes: > In article <808FYS-EH@FINTUVM> FYS-EH@FINTUVM.BITNET (Esa Heinonen) writes: > >Does anyone know if there is a PL/M-80 compiler (commercial > >or otherwise) for use in MS-DOS machines? > > > >Intel does not sell one, and we need one bad. We have old > >code to maintain, and converting it to some other language > >doesn't sound like fun to me... > > There's a company down in Florida that sells some products to let > you run old ISIS (8080) programs on ordinary PCs. I've been using > > The company is > Micro Interfaces > < addresses and discussion deleted > > As memeory serves Digital Research used PL/M to develop CP/Ms and they offered their version on a number of platforms. Later they even came out with PL/1 (subset G) on CP/M machines and PCs. With this background they're certainly worth querying. The only address I have for them is from my CP/M-86 documentation circa '83. Here it is: Digital Research P.O. Box 579 160 Central Avenue Pacific Grove, CA 93950 U.S.A. 408-649-3896 With some luck, you may be able to locate one of the European reps with some knowledge of the product. Good hunting, ger ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 25-May-89 02:18:17-MDT,5719;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 25 May 89 01:30:32 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #122 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Thu, 25 May 89 Volume 89 : Issue 122 Today's Topics: 1200-or-higher-baud external/serial modem Digital Research 'PL/I' and PL/M TRS80 Model II 40 column screen mode VT100 Emulation Under CP/M ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 24 May 89 23:44 EST From: "C'est ma vie." Subject: 1200-or-higher-baud external/serial modem Hi! It's me again. Thanks to all of you giving me tips about the QX-10, I am now working from my computer (not the dreadful terminal room that closes at 6pm. Now, the 300 Baud is getting on my nerves. Especially so because I have to transfer the files through text inputting, not kermit. So, I was wondering if anyone has a "spare" 1200baud-or-higher external (serial) modem to be gotten rid of. Thank you all! John Shin ------------------------------ Date: 23 May 89 17:47:03 GMT From: n8emr!uncle!oink!jep@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (James E. Prior) Subject: Digital Research 'PL/I' and PL/M In article <890522142425.00001ECA072@INFOODS.MIT.EDU> KLENSIN@INFOODS.MIT.EDU (John C Klensin) writes: ... regarding PL/M vs. PL/I ... > (2) PL/M is very similar to PL/I in several respects, but not enough >to make translation a worthwhile enterprise in most cases. I agree. Here are my own thoughts comparing them. PL/M (especially PL/M-51 that I've busted my arse on) is an itty bitty subset of PL/I. PL/I is a Cadillac of languages, with power seats with N degrees of freedom, remote control mirrors, cigarette lighters for everyone, automatice antenna, curb feelers, power steering, brakes, door locks, windows, sunroof, etc... It is a very rich language offering damn near all the features ever conceived. PL/M is a two cycle trail bike with no instrumentation, no gas filter, no air filter, and no muffler. It was to be quick and agile for microcontroller applications where time is a real concern (real time). It has the bare minimum of statements, expressions, and data types. It succeeds at being a step above assembler, but not much. PL/I and PL/M have the same _general_ structure and look, but that's about it. They both have their place. -- Jim Prior jep@oink osu-cis!n8emr!oink!jep N8KSM ------------------------------ Date: 23 May 89 22:12:39 GMT From: atha!auvax.AthabascaU.CA!tech@decwrl.dec.com (Richard Loken) Subject: TRS80 Model II 40 column screen mode TRSDOS for the Model II has a control code to switch the console into 40 column mode and another to switch it to 80 column mode. I have used this phenomenon when writing BASIC programs in TRSDOS but I recently tried to do this under P&T CP/M and found there is no such feature. Undaunted I searched the TRS80 manuals to find out how this mechanism is handled - but in vain. I phoned TriSoft to find out if CP/M handles this feature in some obscure manner but they didn't seem to know that the Model II had a 40 column mode and suggested it might have be done by building characters out of the graphics character set. I am unsatisfied with the graphics theory (mostly because I would have to write a bunch of code to build my new bigger character set). It appears to me that in 40 column mode the character set is identical but built out of bigger dots. So.. Daddy, how does Tandy put bigger characters onto the TRS80 Model II? If this is a hardware feature can you provide enough hard information for me to get this running under CP/M? Are there any 8 bit afficianados out there? ********* 73 ********** Richard Loken VE6BSV . **** .. **** Athabasca University .... **** Athabasca, Alberta Canada ..........**** tech@athabascau.ca alberta!auvax!tech ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 May 89 13:20:20 EST From: "Jay Sage" Subject: VT100 Emulation Under CP/M Christopher Hassell asked about a VT100 emulator for his NorthStar Advantage. Keith Petersen mentioned QTERM. This has the advantage of being free, but at the moment there are not very many machine/terminal overlays available for it. I don't believe there is one for the Advantage, though if the Advantage emulates one of the common terminals it might be quite easy to convert an existing overlay for the rest of the hardware. Another possibility is the commercial version of MEX. The basic MEX-Plus package costs $60, but an enhanced package for an additional $30 (or $40 with remote dial-in, too) includes terminal emulation capability. The VT100 terminal is one of those supported. As far as terminal emulators go (which may not be far enough), the one with MEX is pretty full-featured and complete. QTERM is still trying to catch up to it. More information about MEX can be obtained from NightOwl Software (Ron Fowler) at NightOwl Software, Inc. Route 1, Box 7 Fort Atkinson, WI 53538 1-414-563-4013 (probably answered by Ron, himself) 1-800-NITEOWL (*** orders only -- no technical info ***) I am a happy user of MEX-Plus on all my CP/M and MS-DOS computers, and I use the VT100 emulation routinely. ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 26-May-89 02:06:44-MDT,805;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 26 May 89 01:31:05 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #123 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Fri, 26 May 89 Volume 89 : Issue 123 Today's Topics: Footnoting using WordStar ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 24 May 89 08:07:07 PDT (Wednesday) From: "Terry_V._Reed.ESCP8"@Xerox.COM Subject: Footnoting using WordStar Is there a feature in WordStar to do footnotes? If not in WordStar then perhaps a post-process program? Thanks Terry ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest ****************************** 27-May-89 02:02:51-MDT,6914;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Sat, 27 May 89 01:30:32 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #124 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Sat, 27 May 89 Volume 89 : Issue 124 Today's Topics: 8080 FOCAL Language ? Mex. PCPI CTC Chip Trojan Horsies... and other "unintentional" bugsies. Wanted: PL/M-80 compiler (3 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 May 89 12:25:50 PDT From: secrist%msdsws.DEC@decwrl.dec.com (Richard C. Secrist) Subject: 8080 FOCAL Language ? A friend is looking for a version of 8080 FOCAL that he known to exist for CP/M. I have a Z-80 version of the language, if anyone is interested, but he only runs an 8080. It is not on Royal Oak or the CompuServe CPMFORUM. Guess I better get around to subscribing to GEnie... An alternative could be to pop a Z-80 in his DEC Robin (aka VT-180), but I never heard of anybody trying it. Thanks, rcs. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 May 89 09:53 EST From: "C'est ma vie." Subject: Mex. Hi! A few days ago, someone mentioned "MEX" as a good alternative to QTERM for VT100 emulation. Well, there is a directory in simtel archive called "MEX" (PD:) and it seems that there are a lot of things in there. I am trying to download some of them and see what happens; has anyone done that before? Let us know! (i.e., are the files in the MEX directory the real MEX?) THNX John Shin (JSHIN@HAMPVMS.bitnet) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 May 89 12:40:30 PDT From: secrist%msdsws.DEC@decwrl.dec.com (Richard C. Secrist) Subject: PCPI CTC Chip The PCPI CTC chip is the common Z-80 family variety available from Jameco for like $3.50. I will mail addresses and specs once I dig them out at home, where I *still* haven't unpacked since moving last November... rcs ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 May 89 09:55 EST From: "C'est ma vie." Subject: Trojan Horsies... and other "unintentional" bugsies. Hello, it's me again. I am quite new to info-cpm and SIMTEL. Well, the other day one of my friends - upon my delight at being able to access SIMTEL - cautioned me with a straight face about the Vira. I was wondering if there was anyone who remembers of such an incidence or an epidemic in SIMTEL files. THNX. John Shin ------------------------------ Date: 24 May 89 12:44:43 GMT From: dvnspc1!gary@burdvax.prc.unisys.com (Gary Barrett) Subject: Wanted: PL/M-80 compiler In article <808FYS-EH@FINTUVM>, FYS-EH@FINTUVM.BITNET (Esa Heinonen) writes: > Does anyone know if there is a PL/M-80 compiler (commercial > or otherwise) for use in MS-DOS machines? > > > ------------------------------------------------ > | Esa Heinonen, University of Turku, Finland | > ------------------------------------------------ I think that you will discover PL/M to be a language totally unsupported outside INTEL itself. Certainly, PL/M has been a very popular language, widely used for micro development. Yet go to any bookstore and you won't find one tutorial on it. And I know of no commercial compilers for it other than those marketed by Intel. The problem is with Intel, not with PL/M. My experience with Intel marketeers has been that the company claims that it supports openness (C, UNIX, etc) yet at the same time tries to push us developers onto their proprietary s/w solutions : PL/M, iRMx, you name it. Clearly, the drive is to lock one into their products and gouge us with high license fees. And heaven help the person who tries to clone any of their stuff. It's lawsuit city. (I can understand how Intel and IBM have become so friendly. They understand one another.) That's too bad too, because I personally find PL/M to be a good language. But who wants non-portable software these days, and a language tied directly to one vendor's product line? If I'm writing a one-time application on an embedded system, PL/M may seem appropriate. But for anything that has to last over the long term, possibly on future hardware platforms, I'm forced to use C. ------------------------------ Date: 24 May 89 19:30:16 GMT From: ico!ism780c!kirkd@handies.ucar.edu (Kirk Davis) Subject: Wanted: PL/M-80 compiler In article <507@atlas.tegra.UUCP> vail@tegra.UUCP (Johnathan Vail) writes: >In article <808FYS-EH@FINTUVM> FYS-EH@FINTUVM.BITNET (Esa Heinonen) writes: > > Does anyone know if there is a PL/M-80 compiler (commercial > or otherwise) for use in MS-DOS machines? > You may want to give RTCS Corp. a call (805)-987-9781. They make a OS that rides on top of DOS that allows you to run intels compilers under it. As well as alot of other interesting products like RMX for the pc. --- -kbd- (kirkd@ism780.ism.com) ------------------------------ Date: 27 May 89 02:36:04 GMT From: rti!bcw@mcnc.org (Bruce Wright) Subject: Wanted: PL/M-80 compiler In article <2593@lethe.UUCP>, gerry@lethe.UUCP (Gerry) writes: > > As memeory serves Digital Research used PL/M to develop CP/Ms and they offered > their version on a number of platforms. Later they even came out with PL/1 > (subset G) on CP/M machines and PCs. With this background they're certainly > worth querying. DRI is still in business, but they are now into things like GEM and Concurrent DOS. They haven't been in the language business for some time - I'm not even sure that they will sell you anything; it will certainly not have been worked on in several years ... PL/M is related to PL/I only in some of the low-level syntax. The high-level syntax and the semantics are quite different. I'm not sure that DRI ever marketed a PL/M compiler, though Gary Kildall did write the first Intel PL/M compiler and used the language quite a bit in CP/M. The PL/I compiler that DRI had for the 8080 and 8086 was a far cry from a Subset G PL/I compiler- it was more like Fortran with semicolens and structures (RECORDs for you Pascal types). It was also full of horrible bugs and only supported the small model. I have had the misfortune to have to convert a significant amount of code from real Subset G compilers to the DRI PL/I compiler and take my word for it, you don't want it if you can possibly avoid it. Bruce C. Wright ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V89 Issue #124 ************************************* 28-May-89 01:37:44-MDT,4676;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Sun, 28 May 89 01:31:01 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #125 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Sun, 28 May 89 Volume 89 : Issue 125 Today's Topics: Chuck Forsberg's X/Y/Zmodem for Unix and VAX/VMS updated help wtd: CPT 8525, COMM port, MODEM4, Hayes Compat. Wanted: PL/M-80 compiler ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 27 May 1989 12:30 MDT From: Keith Petersen Subject: Chuck Forsberg's X/Y/Zmodem for Unix and VAX/VMS updated I just received an update of X/Y/Zmodem for Unix and VAX/VMS from Chuck Forsberg. The individual files are in SIMTEL20's directory PD3: and the the convenience of net users I have also included RZSZ0525.ARC which includes all the files in this new version. The archive's member files all have Unix end-of-lines. This version corrects an error in the protocol negotiation for the "escape all control characters" -e command option. --Keith Petersen Maintainer of SIMTEL20's CP/M, MSDOS, and MISC archives Internet: w8sdz@WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil [26.2.0.74] Uucp: {ames,decwrl,harvard,rutgers,ucbvax,uunet}!wsmr-simtel20.army.mil!w8sdz ------------------------------ Date: 27 May 89 20:33:29 GMT From: leah!rpi!pawl3.pawl.rpi.edu!dorian@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Dorian S. Garson) Subject: help wtd: CPT 8525, COMM port, MODEM4, Hayes Compat. I just got my first CP/M system, a CPT 8525 (running CPT's CP/M-80), and I'm trying to get my modem to work with it. I've been struggling with Ward Christenson's MODEM4 program to no avail. Are there any CPT users out there who can help me, or at least point out that I'm attempting the impossible? Thanks! -Dorian-> |\ /\ ARPAnet: DORIAN@PAWL.RPI.EDU | \/ __ | /\ / FoNet: (201) 254-0469 |/ \/ SloNet: 6 Brandywine Drive, East Brunswick, NJ 08816 ------------------------------ Date: 27 May 89 14:18:01 GMT From: pacbell!cpro!asgard@ames.arc.nasa.gov (J.R. Stoner) Subject: Wanted: PL/M-80 compiler From article <2985@rti.UUCP>, by bcw@rti.UUCP (Bruce Wright): ; In article <2593@lethe.UUCP>, gerry@lethe.UUCP (Gerry) writes: ;> As memeory serves Digital Research used PL/M to develop CP/Ms and they ;> offered their version on a number of platforms. Later they even came out ;> with PL/1 (subset G) on CP/M machines and PCs. With this background they're ;> certainly worth querying. And also still uses PL/M for significant portions of CDOS-XM and CDOS-386 code. ; DRI is still in business, but they are now into things like GEM and ; Concurrent DOS. They haven't been in the language business for some ; time - I'm not even sure that they will sell you anything; it will ; certainly not have been worked on in several years ... Language products and other "discontinued" items are available for sale from Alexander and Lord. You also go to A&L for ACCESS Manager (B-trees to the washed). A&L, coincidentally, is also in Monterey. ; PL/M is related to PL/I only in some of the low-level syntax. The ; high-level syntax and the semantics are quite different. I'm not ; sure that DRI ever marketed a PL/M compiler, though Gary Kildall did ; write the first Intel PL/M compiler and used the language quite a bit ; in CP/M. ; The PL/I compiler that DRI had for the 8080 and 8086 was a far cry from ; a Subset G PL/I compiler- it was more like Fortran with semicolens and ; structures (RECORDs for you Pascal types). It was also full of ; horrible bugs and only supported the small model. I have had the ; misfortune to have to convert a significant amount of code from real ; Subset G compilers to the DRI PL/I compiler and take my word for it, ; you don't want it if you can possibly avoid it. My misfortun, too. One of my projects when I was with CompuPro was to completely rewrite the CP/M-86 STAT program from PL/M to C. Just 'orrible. I also had to fix the bug of what happens when you run STAT on other than CP/M-86 or MP/M-86. That is when I learned All The Directory FCB Formats From Hell. -- | J.R. (May the Source be With You) Stoner "Dying is easy - | {amdahl,hplabs,decwrl}!pacbell!cpro!asgard Comedy is hard." | asgard@cpro.uucp asgard@well.uucp | asgard@wotan.uucp asgard@fafner.uucp ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V89 Issue #125 ************************************* 30-May-89 02:28:30-MDT,3786;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Tue, 30 May 89 01:30:10 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #126 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Tue, 30 May 89 Volume 89 : Issue 126 Today's Topics: Footnoting using WordStar (2 msgs) SLR Z80ASM INSTEAD OF MAS Trojan Horsies... and other "unintentional" bugsies. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 29 May 89 18:54:02 GMT From: madd@bu-cs.bu.edu (Jim Frost) Subject: Footnoting using WordStar In article <890524-165543-10438@Xerox> "Terry_V._Reed.ESCP8"@XEROX.COM writes: |Is there a feature in WordStar to do footnotes? If not in WordStar then |perhaps a post-process program? Depends on which version of WordStar. The newer ones (IBM-PC) have footnoting. I don't believe any of the CP/M ones do, certainly 3.3 (which I use heavily on my Kaypro) does not. The technique I use to do footnoting is to enter all of the text and then hand-footnote at the bottom of each page. This makes editting very difficult, though. jim frost software tool & die madd@bu-it.bu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 May 1989 23:38 MDT From: Keith Petersen Subject: Footnoting using WordStar There is a footnoting program available from the SIMTEL20 archives. Filename Type Bytes CRC Directory PD2: FTNOTE14.LBR BINARY 35072 F08DH --Keith Petersen Maintainer of SIMTEL20's CP/M, MSDOS, and MISC archives Internet: w8sdz@WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil [26.2.0.74] Uucp: {ames,decwrl,harvard,rutgers,ucbvax,uunet}!wsmr-simtel20.army.mil!w8sdz ------------------------------ Date: 28 May 89 01:34:00 GMT From: mnetor!tmsoft!masnet!canremote!larry.moore@uunet.uu.net (LARRY MOORE) Subject: SLR Z80ASM INSTEAD OF MAS I'd recommend you get SLR's package of assembler/linker/librarian. Good, fast, long (14 char) identifiers, configurable to emulate Microsoft M80 and a reasonable price. --- * Via ProDoor 2.9a --- MaS Relayer v1.00.00 Message gatewayed by MaS Network Software and Consulting/HST for questions or help in replying to messages contact mshiels@tmsoft or michael.shiels@masnet.uucp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 May 1989 23:45 MDT From: Keith Petersen Subject: Trojan Horsies... and other "unintentional" bugsies. This quote from the SIMTEL20 "archive blurb" sums up the situation. "Due to the large number of files available, the SIMTEL20 archive maintainers cannot possibly attempt to validate the proper operation of the various programs. When a program bug is reported, immediate action is taken to either correct the error or remove the offending program from the archives. Still, users must understand that all archive programs are offered AS IS, and the archive maintainers specifically disclaim any liability should these programs malfunction or cause damage, incidental or otherwise. When testing ANY new software, be certain that all information stored on disk is backed-up before you start, so that you can recover if files are damaged or erased. This is particularly true if you have a hard disk, in which case malfunctions can be spectacularly disasterous." --Keith Petersen Maintainer of SIMTEL20's CP/M, MSDOS, and MISC archives Internet: w8sdz@WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil [26.2.0.74] Uucp: {ames,decwrl,harvard,rutgers,ucbvax,uunet}!wsmr-simtel20.army.mil!w8sdz ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V89 Issue #126 ************************************* 31-May-89 02:35:10-MDT,4739;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Wed, 31 May 89 01:30:33 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #127 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Wed, 31 May 89 Volume 89 : Issue 127 Today's Topics: Footnoting using WordStar MEX emulation and Jameco address RE: ADAM USERS. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 30 May 89 13:22:56 GMT From: bsu-cs!neubauer@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Paul Neubauer) Subject: Footnoting using WordStar In article <31954@bu-cs.BU.EDU> madd@bu-it.bu.edu (Jim Frost) writes: +In article <890524-165543-10438@Xerox> "Terry_V._Reed.ESCP8"@XEROX.COM writes: +|Is there a feature in WordStar to do footnotes? If not in WordStar then +|perhaps a post-process program? + +Depends on which version of WordStar. The newer ones (IBM-PC) have +footnoting. I don't believe any of the CP/M ones do, certainly 3.3 +(which I use heavily on my Kaypro) does not. + +The technique I use to do footnoting is to enter all of the text and +then hand-footnote at the bottom of each page. This makes editting +very difficult, though. There are at least a couple of PD footnoting programs that take text files with footnotes and reformat them to put the footnotes at the bottoms of the pages. I would be surprised if none of them were available on SIMTEL. I doubt that I can email many (if any) copies of the .LBRs, but if necessary, I can arrange to send floppies (5 1/4 only). I can definitely handle Kaypro and Osborne formats and some others. Send email if you cannot get anything from SIMTEL to arrange it. -- Paul Neubauer neubauer@bsu-cs.bsu.edu neubauer@bsu-cs.UUCP !{iuvax,pur-ee}!bsu-cs!neubauer ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 May 89 23:22:57 CDT From: "No problem!" Subject: MEX emulation and Jameco address I believe whoever mentioned MEX's terminal emulation was talking about the commercial version, or the version you have to pay for. Nothing like that will be in the SIMTEL archives. There are some updates and some overlays for it, but not the program itself. Jameco Electronics is at this address: 1355 Shoreway Rd. Belmont, CA 94002 Phone (orders): (415)592-8097 Rob Fugina ------------------------------ Date: 30 May 89 00:50:00 GMT From: jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!dptcdc!tmsoft!masnet!canremote!neil.begin@rutgers.edu (NEIL BEGIN) Subject: RE: ADAM USERS. Hi Al! I don't know how or if you'll receive this msg.. Networks and Nodes are new to me when it deals w/international or out-of-town msgs. When I refer to myself as "So Named" the msg. is/was regarded as sent by my ADAM/IBM/Apple friend Ulli Hernando who has my authority and acknowledgement. I've checked a USE-NET list of accessable Nets, and I didn't find an ADAM one. Too bad. Still something to look into. It's great to find another ADAM user! I (So Named) am fairly new to the ADAM world so I don't have much re: Hardware and Software. I have ADAMlink; and, I'm yet to get CP/M 2.2 running. I've got a copy of the Hackers Guide (Volume One, I think), I still have to get the other Volume (some how). I'd be interested in obtaining a copy of the Programmers Guide, that you mentioned. I still have to learn Z80 Assembly Language. I'm currently familiar w/6502 on my Apple. I have the Adam Technical Journal Vol 1/Number 3. And, I have one newsletter fr/MTAG (Metro-Toronto Adam Users Group) which I recently joined. I have several Text Files on Adam Information, some are: MTAG01.NWS, MTAG02.NWS (MTAG Online Supplement-Newsletters), and two ADAM articles fr/Toronto Computes (Online Newsletters). Some ADAM supported boards in Toronto are: TAPPS (A-Net) 300/1200 (416) 741-2432, Pheonix (Adam Supported) 3/12/24 (416) 458-5850 (contain MTAG Online Supplement-Newsletters), and ABACUS (Adam Supported) 3/12/24 (416) 538-7911. When I say "Supported" they have both ADAM msg. areas and download areas. Ulli Hernando. 9 Pineway Blvd. Willowdale, Ontario. M2H 1A2 A D A M i t e || Neil Begin - So Named! At Canada Remote Systems --- * Via ProDoor 2.9a --- MaS Relayer v1.00.00 Message gatewayed by MaS Network Software and Consulting/HST for questions or help in replying to messages contact mshiels@tmsoft or michael.shiels@masnet.uucp ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V89 Issue #127 *************************************