1-Aug-89 05:05:33-MDT,8728;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Tue, 1 Aug 89 05:00:21 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #158 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Tue, 1 Aug 89 Volume 89 : Issue 158 Today's Topics: CP/M VT100 - QTERM Osborne I - system Ramdisk under CPM (2 msgs) Such a deal I found for you... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 28 Jul 89 13:31:39 GMT From: ima!cfisun!lakart!root@decvax.dec.com (comp.os.cpm gateway) Subject: CP/M VT100 - QTERM NOTE!! The official release version of QTERM is either QTERM41D.LBR, or if your system crunches IX and IY try to find QTERM41E.LBR. When I get off my butt, I'll U/L 41E to Royal Oak, so that Keith Petersen can transfer it to GEnie and SIMTEL20. Any previous version will probably be missing features (especially if you've got a 4.0x version). -- dg@pallio.UUCP - David Goodenough +---+ IHS | +-+-+ ..... !harvard!xait!lakart!pallio!dg +-+-+ | AKA: dg%pallio.uucp@cfisun.cfi.com +---+ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 89 10:16:54 EDT From: Mack Goodman Subject: Osborne I - system I hope someone can help me. I just inherited an Osborne 1 computer and I have no system disks. Can someone suggest how I might proceed. Someone said to donate it to the Smithsonium. I would like to see if I could get this machine running, at least as a dumb terminal. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Mack Goodman ------------------------------ Date: 31 Jul 89 19:28:01 GMT From: microsoft!brianw@uunet.uu.net (Brian Willoughby) Subject: Ramdisk under CPM In article <1665@sactoh0> ianj@sactoh0 (Ian R. Justman) writes: >In article <752@madnix.UUCP>, rat@madnix.UUCP (David Douthitt) writes: >> >> There ARE other CP/M cards besides the slowpokes from AE and Microsoft. >> >> If you don't have an Applicard, perhaps its time you left 1MHz in the dust >> and got an older card which still has yet to be beaten at 6MHz. >> >> Applied Engineering, when you gonna wake up and smell the roses? This card >> is at LEAST 5 years older than the Z80 Plus and runs 6 times faster. >> > >Sure it beats those cards. But what about //c owners who want to >run CP/M? Just tell me where one can get an Applicard-type device >for the //c and I'll be happy knowing that you're a little bit >rational. > >BTW, what about those of us who can't currently afford an >Applicard? What are we to do now? Are we in the stone ages? We >might, but if we get the job done, and it may take a bit longer, >who cares?!?!? You have to realize that a lot of us can't go out I agree with the cost vs. speed arguement, but I wonder how fast a 6 MHz Z80 really is. The Microsoft Softcard runs at 3.58 MHz, not 1 MHz, and that just barely gets it up to the speed of the 1 MHz 6502. I started here at Microsoft after the Softcard had fizzled out, so I'm no expert on our product. In fact, I actually have a Taiwan peripheral clone of the Softcard. But I have looked into the architecture, and a Z80 takes three cycles to transfer a byte, where the 6502 takes one. Add to that the restriction that the video generator uses every other half cycle at 1 MHz to read video RAM, and then you'll see why the Softcard would see a lot of RAM wait states when accessing main Apple memory. When the phase 1 Apple clock is low, the Z80 sees a clock low for 500ns, then when phase 1 is high, the Z80 sees a few quick bursts at 3.58 MHz, but then it stops again when phase 1 goes low again. I think the Softcard //e is a little faster because of the on-board 64K which is not restricted to video timing (but is unusable as //e aux memory). So, depending upon whether the Applicard has its own independant memory bus (to remove the video wait states), it might not actually be running at a full 6 MHz. Even if it is, its not 6 times faster than the Microsoft (or AE) card - more like twice (at best). BTW, if the Applicard comes with any documentation or schematics which diagram its operation, I would be curious to hear how it does interface to the Apple. I'm always looking for the better mousetrap. Brian Willoughby UUCP: ...!{tikal, sun, uunet, elwood}!microsoft!brianw InterNet: microsoft!brianw@uunet.UU.NET or: microsoft!brianw@Sun.COM Bitnet brianw@microsoft.UUCP ------------------------------ Date: 1 Aug 89 01:13:06 GMT From: ubvax!ardent!peck!rap@lll-winken.llnl.gov (Rob Peck) Subject: Ramdisk under CPM In article <7186@microsoft.UUCP> brianw@microsoft.UUCP (Brian Willoughby) writes: > .... > .... > .... >So, depending upon whether the Applicard >has its own independant memory bus (to remove the video wait states), it >might not actually be running at a full 6 MHz. Even if it is, its not 6 >times faster than the Microsoft (or AE) card - more like twice (at best). I have two of the Applicards, both running at 6 Mhz. Both have a full 64K of memory and I think both allow a 62K TPA. Device drivers are normally written in 6502 and thus allows the best of both worlds, that is, full utilization of both busses. One of the two boards has a 128k memory expansion on it, with a ramdisk driver as one of the driver devices. I don't know how any of it is configured. Terminal screen update when the Applicard is about twice as fast as ordinarily when Wordstar is running, but I think this is probably limited just by the data transfer to the Apple bus (never measured explicitly, just subjective memory). Also I have a very slow video card (ALS Smarterm I.. my Smarterm II blew out, TWICE, and it is now being used to support a sagging table leg.) If I had some kinda benchmark program for CP/M, the relative performance of the on-the-board stuff could probably be checked. But then, I dont think PCPI is still making/supporting them so its probably all academic. We who have em get the performance and nobody else can get em. I once responded to someone who posted a message that they wanted to buy one of 'em from me, and the offer that was returned was "$75, but only if it includes the 128K ram card and all of the technical documentation that you have --- oh yeah, and the hard disk driver software too." Well, I did not sell it after all, ya see, cause it was $200. for the card, $250 for the extra memory and $150 for the hard disk driver that somebody wrote, and then there was the two $50. upgrades to PCPI for versions 1.5 and 2.0 of the system software. Nah, he could buy a clone of the Microsoft card with no system software at all from a local swap meet, or he could add a grand total of $16 to that and get the world. I think not. Rob Peck ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jul 89 11:53:09 MDT From: William G. Martin Subject: Such a deal I found for you... I thought the people on the CPM list would be interested in this marvelous opportunity I noticed in the "Summer Supplement Special" catalog from American Design Components, a surplus dealer... CP/M COMPUTER... Tinkerer's Dream High Resolution! Graphics Capability! Manufactured for Corpis in Sweden. Supplied with CP/M operating system disk (in Swedish). Operates on 115V or 230V. Built-in printer output (serial or parallel). Hook-up diagram included! 256K, expandable (chips must be hard-wired in). Complete with 15" monochrome monitor (amber). 93-key Swedish keyboard (most characters are in English) & CPU (disk drives not included!) Uses 1 or 2 DS/Quad Density Disk Drives. Item #21934 New - $199.00 There are some disk drives shown below this ad, which cost about as much as the system does. I just liked the bit about the OS in Swedish being included on a disk when no disk drives were provided, and the keyboard characters being "mostly in English".. Funny, I never thought that "A" "B" "C", etc., were "in English"... :-) If anybody really wants one of these things, give ADC a call: American Design Components 815 Fairview Ave. PO Box 220 Fairview, NJ 07022 800-524-0809 (in NJ, 201-941-5000) Ooops -- almost forgot their footnote: "Manufacturer's Close Out -- Not IBM Compatible -- We cannot accept returns on this item!" Regards, Will ------- ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V89 Issue #158 ************************************* 3-Aug-89 20:29:41-MDT,9047;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 3 Aug 89 20:00:50 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #159 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Thu, 3 Aug 89 Volume 89 : Issue 159 Today's Topics: Hard Sectors???? (5 msgs) INFO-CPM Digest V89 #158 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 1 Aug 89 14:03:48 PDT From: rzh@lll-lcc.llnl.gov (Roger Hanscom) Subject: Hard Sectors???? Hi All -- A friend of mine just bought a used "H-89" computer (a Heathkit) that runs some form of CP/M. I'd like to give him some PD software, but this machine runs hard-sectored 5.25" diskettes. Is there an efficient way to do it? I can read and write many 5.25" formats -- can a hard sector controller read anything but hard sector diskettes?? I can always do a serial patch between one of my machines and his, but that seems like "the hard way". Any hard-sector users out there?? How do you get software?? roger rzh@lll-lcc.llnl.gov ------------------------------ Date: 2 Aug 89 09:01:06 GMT From: morris@jade.Berkeley.EDU (Mike Morris) Subject: Hard Sectors???? (Roger Hanscom) writes: > >Hi All -- > A friend of mine just bought a used "H-89" computer (a >Heathkit) that runs some form of CP/M. I'd like to give >him some PD software, but this machine runs hard-sectored >5.25" diskettes. Is there an efficient way to do it? I >can read and write many 5.25" formats -- can a hard sector >controller read anything but hard sector diskettes?? I can >always do a serial patch between one of my machines and his, >but that seems like "the hard way". Any hard-sector users >out there?? How do you get software?? I asked a friend of mine who has a Z89 and he says that the hardware is capable of either hard or soft, it's all in the BIOS, which is on the system tracks of the boot disk. IOW, to "convert" his machine to a soft-sectored machine, simply get your hands on a soft-sectored boot disk, and do it. Is there a HUG around there somewhere? (Heathkit User Group) Most Heath stores sponsor them or at least know of them. US Snail: Mike Morris UUCP: Morris@Jade.JPL.NASA.gov P.O. Box 1130 Also: WA6ILQ Arcadia, Ca. 91006-1130 #Include disclaimer.standard | The opinions above probably do not even ------------------------------ Date: 2 Aug 89 20:07:59 GMT From: zephyr.ens.tek.com!orca!frip!andrew@uunet.uu.net (Andrew Klossner) Subject: Hard Sectors???? "A friend of mine just bought a used "H-89" computer (a Heathkit) that runs some form of CP/M. I'd like to give him some PD software ..." The original H89 design put ROM at location 0, and a special CP/M was created which could accommodate this. (The same hack was used on the TRS-80 model III.) Standard CP/M binaries will not work on such a system. There was a mod to the H89 later which made the ROM shadow-able and put RAM at 0. Before you spend a lot of time moving your software onto H89 disks, you might as well find out if it has the mod. -=- Andrew Klossner (uunet!tektronix!frip.WV.TEK!andrew) [UUCP] (andrew%frip.wv.tek.com@relay.cs.net) [ARPA] ------------------------------ Date: 3 Aug 89 04:27:33 GMT From: tank!eecae!upba!dsndata!unocss!mlewis@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Marcus S. Lewis) Subject: Hard Sectors???? From article <8908012103.AA03920@lll-lcc.llnl.gov>, by rzh@LLL-LCC.LLNL.GOV (Roger Hanscom): > A friend of mine just bought a used "H-89" computer (a > Heathkit) that runs some form of CP/M. I'd like to give > him some PD software, but this machine runs hard-sectored > 5.25" diskettes. Is there an efficient way to do it? I > can read and write many 5.25" formats -- can a hard sector > controller read anything but hard sector diskettes?? I can > always do a serial patch between one of my machines and his, > but that seems like "the hard way". Any hard-sector users > out there?? How do you get software?? There is the Heath User Group, who distributes a fair amount of stuff in hard-sector format. The _only_ other option is to hook up a serial link (preferably at 9600+). My tertiary system is a Micropolis-based machine, 16-sector, 77 tracks, SSQD, 315K per disk. It doesn't have a whole lot, since I have never managed to get a serial port to cuntion with the odd system clock I have on the CPU (1.8432MHz - most S100 systems demand a 2 MHz clock for a serial port). Actually, as late as three years ago, you could have gone to a Heathkit store for conversion. A lot of them had -89's with two controllers in them. One of his options is to add a second disk controller (soft-sectored, of course), which will give him a bit more storage to boot. So I misspoke. There are some options. Marc -- Na khuya mne podpis'? | Internet: cs057@zeus.unl.edu | UUCP: uunet!btni!unocss!mlewis Go for it! | Bitnet: CS057@UNOMA1 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 3 Aug 89 22:18:55 GMT From: epiwrl!parker@uunet.uu.net (Alan Parker) Subject: Hard Sectors???? In article <1515@jato.Jpl.Nasa.Gov> morris@jade.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Mike Morris) writes: >I asked a friend of mine who has a Z89 and he says that the hardware >is capable of either hard or soft, it's all in the BIOS, which is on the >system tracks of the boot disk. IOW, to "convert" his machine to a >soft-sectored machine, simply get your hands on a soft-sectored boot >disk, and do it. > This is not true. The drive is pretty much the standard 5 1/4" drive (of that day), but the controller is completely different. Heath/Zenith and a number of third party suppliers sold soft-sector controllers (called H37 format), but I'm not aware that any of these would also do hard sector (though I guess that could be possible). Many people had both hard sector and soft sector drives on H-89s. You either need to move stuff between the machines the with the serial lines or install a soft sector controller in the 89 (not too easy to find now). HUG sell (for about $15) a package that allows a PC to emulate an 89. This includes a pretty nice utility for moving stuff between them with the serial lines. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Aug 89 08:05 EDT From: "Gary Hutchison" Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #158 > BTW, if the Applicard comes with any documentation or schematics which > diagram its operation, I would be curious to hear how it does interface to > the Apple. I'm always looking for the better mousetrap. > > Brian Willoughby > UUCP: ...!{tikal, sun, uunet, elwood}!microsoft!brianw > InterNet: microsoft!brianw@uunet.UU.NET > or: microsoft!brianw@Sun.COM > Bitnet brianw@microsoft.UUCP Brian, I have run a PCPI card as well as a Softcard and was impressed by both at one time or other. I feel that the PCPI card had more flexibility than the Softcard. There were more configuration options for the PCPI card which helps alot when there are no BIOSs available for either. Getting back to your question, it has been a while since I have written much for the PCPI card but here goes. The Z80 and the 6502 run on two completely different clock cycles. tThe Z80 can run up to the board and memory access limit and not be directly affected by the 6502 chugging along at 1M. However, all I/O is performed by the 6502; thus reducing throughput on I/O bound processes. The bios, from the Z80 side, is a bunch of routines that pass command words and blocks of data to the 6502 via a Z80 I/O port. Several Zilog ports are used, some for data and some for status of the data ports. From the 6502 side, interrupts are generated and the commands and data are memory mapped to I/O locations in the Apple I/O slot address space depending on the location of the card. Development of I/O drivers requires, in many cases, both Z80 and 6502 assembler programming. The interface is "slick" because there is no need to rush to read data from the port if you write your dirvers properly; let the Apple buffer the data (it will use all the memory you have installed) and read it at your leasure. 6502 interupts are generated for both read and written data to the channel port between the 6502 and the Z80. I hope this answers your questions, if not let me know. Gary Hutchison Unisys GHK@NCCIBM1.BITNET ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V89 Issue #159 ************************************* 6-Aug-89 10:27:01-MDT,3981;000000000000 Mail-From: KPETERSEN created at 6-Aug-89 10:20:43 Return-Path: Date: Sun, 6 Aug 89 10:20:43 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #160 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Sun, 6 Aug 89 Volume 89 : Issue 160 Today's Topics: CP/M VT100 - QTERM Hard Sectors???? Looking for dbase-2 Z280 timing ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 1 Aug 89 13:53:00 GMT From: jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!dptcdc!tmsoft!masnet!canremote!larry.moore@rutgers.edu (LARRY MOORE) Subject: CP/M VT100 - QTERM >The official release version of QTERM is either QTERM41D.LBR, or if >your system crunches IX and IY try to find QTERM41E.LBR. Any idea how long it will be before the qterm overlay collection library will be released? ... you mentioned it was coming but not when ... Thanks. --- * Via ProDoor 3.0R ------------------------------ Date: 4 Aug 89 23:20:52 GMT From: morris@jade.Berkeley.EDU (Mike Morris) Subject: Hard Sectors???? (Marcus S. Lewis) writes: >system is a Micropolis-based machine, 16-sector, 77 tracks, >SSQD, 315K per disk. It doesn't have a whole lot, since I >have never managed to get a serial port to cuntion with the >odd system clock I have on the CPU (1.8432MHz - most S100 >systems demand a 2 MHz clock for a serial port). > The 1.8432 is a magic number for one of the older baud reate generator chips - a motorola I think. You might want to check the data books. >Actually, as late as three years ago, you could have gone to a >Heathkit store for conversion. A lot of them had -89's with >two controllers in them. One of his options is to add a second >disk controller (soft-sectored, of course), which will give him >a bit more storage to boot. So I misspoke. There are some options. A friend of mine has a Z89 with one controller and he can boot it either way. The hard/soft distinction is in the BIOS, and that's on the system tracks. Mike Morris UUCP: Morris@Jade.JPL.NASA.gov #Include quote.cute.standard | The opinions above probably do not even come cat flames.all > /dev/null | close to those of my employer(s), if any. ------------------------------ Date: 5 Aug 89 00:03:19 GMT From: sumax!amc-gw!jon@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Jon Mandrell) Subject: Looking for dbase-2 our church is looking for a data-base program for a CP/M system that we maintain membership lists on. Does anyone have an old version of dbase-2 (or any other variety for that matter) that they would like to get rid of for little or no money? We would really appreciate it. -- Jon Mandrell, Applied Microsystems Corp., (jon@amc.com or ..!uunet!amc-gw!jon) ------------------------------ Date: 4 Aug 89 08:37:46 GMT From: mcvax!unido!cosmo2!fifi%cosmo.UUCP@uunet.uu.net (A.F.Zinser) Subject: Z280 timing hi, has anyone here experience with z280. a friend of mine is creating a single-board-system using Z280 and got some hardware-problems with dram-access in z-mode (*not* z80-mode). if there's anybody on the net who could help, please contact me. thanks in advance, a.f.zinser +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | _ _ ! ! Axel F. Zinser (_!_) (_!_) ...uunet!mcvax!unido!cosmo!fifi | ! Hannover, W-Germany ! ! fifi@cosmo.UUCP ! ! ! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V89 Issue #160 ************************************* 9-Aug-89 11:35:00-MDT,4449;000000000000 Mail-From: KPETERSEN created at 9-Aug-89 11:29:01 Return-Path: Date: Wed, 9 Aug 89 11:29:00 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #161 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Wed, 9 Aug 89 Volume 89 : Issue 161 Today's Topics: MORROW DESIGNS CPM SYSTEM New CP/M mail server OE error from Cbasic on Zenith CP/M System Z-80 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 6 Aug 89 17:00:32 GMT From: osu-20.ircc.ohio-state.edu!phillips-e@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (earl) Subject: MORROW DESIGNS CPM SYSTEM Can anyone out there help me in trying to figure out my Morrow Designs CPM system? I have recently entered the world of computers new, and acquired the system serendipitously. I have down most of the basic machine commands, but am having trouble with the "Wordstar" software; specifically, how to retain newly-made files on another disk for future data entry. Any suggestions? ------------------------------ Date: 7 Aug 89 19:29:31 GMT From: ima!cfisun!lakart!rna@decvax.dec.com (Remote Network Archive) Subject: New CP/M mail server A copy of RNA (a very simple archive server) has been installed on lakart.UUCP, to allow access to CP/M software that I have written (sorry, I can't archive everything on SIMTEL20, we only have 1/2 a Gig here :-) ). To access it, I'd suggest starting by getting help and index, although I can summarise the index as it currently stands: qterm: qterm V4.1e - the latest and greatest zsm: zsm V2.3 - will come in handy for patching qterm OK, so it's only two files. However in the near future, two others will be appearing: qtermp: patches for qterm - not too many, but it's a start z80ccp: my revised z80 CCP and yet more as time progresses. To access this server send mail containing the following: /send whatever to address to rna@lakart.UUCP. whatever is what you want to get, so to get help and index you'd say: /send index to address /send help to address Since RNA is about as thick as two short planks, I'll give some hints for addresses: Mapped uucp sites (i.e. ones that pathalias knows about) should simply provide: host!user or user@host.uucp - lakart can route to these. Ghost uucp sites (ones that pathalias doesn't know about) should provide a bang path from a backbone site, again by routing to the backbone it'll get there. Domain addressed sites should simply provide a user@host.domain type address: it will be forwarded to a gateway for subsequent delivery. To reach lakart, use the addresses below, and I'll also go in and hack the headers later to make this appear to come from rna (rather than dg) so that replying to it will work. If you have any questions, send mail to rna-help@lakart.UUCP. -- dg@lakart.UUCP - David Goodenough +---+ IHS | +-+-+ ....... !harvard!xait!lakart!dg +-+-+ | AKA: dg%lakart.uucp@xait.xerox.com +---+ ------------------------------ Date: 9 Aug 89 06:30:51 GMT From: mist!gillisb@cs.orst.edu (Brian Gillis) Subject: OE error from Cbasic on Zenith CP/M System Can anyone tell me what on OE error is in Cbasic on an old Zenith CPM System?? Please e-mail your response!! Thank you very much in advance! Brian Gillis gillisb@gsd.UUCP ------------------------------ Date: 7 Aug 89 21:19:53 GMT From: mcvax!cernvax!ethz!ethz-inf!wyle@uunet.uu.net (Mitchell Wyle) Subject: Z-80 With apologies to Bob Seager and "Give me that old-time rock and roll." Just take those old 8-bitters off the shelf. I'll stay and code on them all by myself. Today's chips just can't put up a fight to that old time z-80's height. (chorus:) Give me that old time Z-80. That funky chip it just fills you with glee. Them new procs with all their thirty-two bits so complicated give you terrible fits. Don't try to tell me 'bout your RISC-Os. You'll never even get my cross-compiled code. Today's processors are just so overblown, They fail more often, users grumble and groan. (chorus) X-Mail-Filter v. 01.06.88-18:53 ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V89 Issue #161 ************************************* 11-Aug-89 01:12:47-MDT,7856;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Fri, 11 Aug 89 01:00:31 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #162 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Fri, 11 Aug 89 Volume 89 : Issue 162 Today's Topics: Conversion of CP/M files to MS-DOS Looking for dbase-2 MORROW DESIGNS CPM SYSTEM SuperCalc I vi source?? (2 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 10 Aug 89 04:58:16 GMT From: usc!orion.cf.uci.edu!swooldri@apple.com (Steve Wooldridge) Subject: Conversion of CP/M files to MS-DOS I have very recently used a software package called Xeno Copy (version 2.0) which allows the user to read CP/M files on an MS-DOS drive and transfer them toan MS-DOS formatted diskette. (It also allows a user to format a diskette for CP/M and write files to a CP/M formatted diskette). I borrowed the package from the campus Computing Facility and successfully used it to transfer CP/M WordStar files onto a MS-DOS disk. Once transferred, I used a package called PerfectExchange to translate the files from WordStar into WordPerfect 5.0. It all worked without a hitch (amazing when you think of the difficulties to overcome)! Xeno Copy was developed by a company in Los Angeles called Vertex Systems. Version 3.0 was released (I know since the flier for this was included with the documentation the Computing Facility had for their version 2.0). I called the number in the documentation, but it is now a number for a private residence.There is no number for Vertex Systems in the LA Directory, nor could I find a company listing in computer software guides. (I did track down a software development company in Pennsylvania called Vertex Systems -- but it has nothing to do with the LA Company). Does anyone know if the company went out of business? Was the copyright assigned to another company? Is it being distributed under another name? Are there similar packages for CP/M to MS-DOS migration on the market? Can anyone provide names, vendors? This saves a BUNDLE on the costs for diskette conversion! I would appreciate answers to be posted directly to my INTERNET address. I will share the information in a single post to this board late board later. Thanks. A D D A A A Thanks. Sorry, but I am totally unfamiliar with the vi editor I am in -- get me back to emacs. A A A A A A A ------------------------------ Date: 10 Aug 89 23:06:57 GMT From: ubvax!ardent!peck!rap@lll-winken.llnl.gov (Rob Peck) Subject: Looking for dbase-2 In article <617@amc-gw.UUCP> jon@amc-gw.UUCP (Jon Mandrell) writes: >our church is looking for a data-base program for a CP/M system that we >maintain membership lists on. Does anyone have an old version of dbase-2 >(or any other variety for that matter) that they would like to get rid of >for little or no money? We would really appreciate it. I wanna keep my only copy of dbase-2, but I did run across a copy of Personal Pearl, a Morrow program, that I'd be willing to part with at no charge. HOWEVER, the master distribution disk has a read-error on a file that I strongly believe is essential to the operation of Pearl. Pearl is a simplified database manager and from the examples in the book (several books-in-one) that I have it would seem to do what little a church would require, particularly at no-charge. Does someone else out there also own Personal Pearl, such that if I send my stuff off to Mr. Mandrell, he'd be able somehow to get someone to supply him with a copy of that file only. If the company is still in existence, they might supply it or whatever. I'd like to help but the product is now on the edge of the wastebasket, just waiting for a tiny shove in the wrong direction (or another earthquake... my home is 1 mile from the epicenter of the last 5.2/4.6 that we had ... whew) to free up some shelf space for yet another batch'o'nearly obsolete software. Of course, by the time this gets posted, no doubt he'll already have 15 copies of DBASE-2 and nobody will care. Well, its worth a try. The file on my master that I cannot read is: PEARLI.LIB Kaypro-serrah-serrah Amen. Rob Peck ------------------------------ Date: 8 Aug 89 12:05:28 GMT From: ssbell!mcmi!amperif!unocss!mlewis@uunet.uu.net (Marcus S. Lewis) Subject: MORROW DESIGNS CPM SYSTEM In article <12515988918006@osu-20.ircc.ohio-state.edu>, PHILLIPS-E@osu-20.ircc.ohio-state.edu (earl) writes: > Can anyone out there help me in trying to figure out my > Morrow Designs CPM system? I have recently entered the > world of computers new, and acquired the system > serendipitously. I have down most of the basic machine > commands, but am having trouble with the "Wordstar" > software; specifically, how to retain newly-made files > on another disk for future data entry. Any suggestions? What exactly are you trying to do with WordStar? So far as I know, never having owned CP/M WordStar (I use an OLD MS-DOS version), the best way to put a file on another disk is to use ^K^B and ^K^K to mark the whole file then ^K^W to write it to another file. It works, but it's a bit clumsy. If you need, I can send a sort of copy of my MS-DOS WScheatsheet. WS 3.12 is functionally identical to and slower than CP/M WS of the same vintage, since it is merely translated assembler. I got it in 1984. What sorts of docs do you have, and of course, what do you need? I can probably give you a hand. Oh yeah, you can also copy the file from the editting no-file menu. I almost forgot about that. Hope this helps. Marc (this is a retry, my mail came back to haunt me) -- Na khuya mne podpis'? | Internet: cs057@zeus.unl.edu | UUCP: uunet!btni!unocss!mlewis Go for it! | Bitnet: CS057@UNOMA1 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Aug 89 00:31 PDT From: Steven Russell Subject: SuperCalc I I am trying to patch SuperCalc I on my TeleVideo TPC-1 so that the cursor shows up in reverse video. Can anyone give me a clue as to how to find the correct address for this in the program? Thanks in advance for any help! -Steven Russell srussell@uoneuro.uoregon.edu srussell@uoneuro.bitnet ------------------------------ Date: 10 Aug 89 04:37:26 GMT From: n8emr!uncle!nz8r!gwr@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Gregory W. Ratcliff) Subject: vi source?? I am searching for editor that is a workalike to vi for the cpm based system I have. I am really tired of having to switch editors 5 or 6 times a day! Source would be nice, as I have a compiler. thanks gwr -- Gregory W. Ratcliff, {osu-cis}n8emr!uncle!nz8r!gwr ham radio,aviation,tcp-ip ------------------------------ Date: 10 Aug 89 23:19:54 GMT From: cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!oliveb!mipos3!cadev4!dbraun@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Doug Braun ~) Subject: vi source?? I started trying to port STEVIE (from its Minix version) to CP/M. It is just too damm big, however. You would need some fancy disk buffering scheme that would slow it way down. Doug Braun Intel Corp CAD 408 765-4279 / decwrl \ | hplabs | -| oliveb |- !intelca!mipos3!cadev4!dbraun | amd | \ qantel / ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V89 Issue #162 ************************************* 12-Aug-89 02:23:52-MDT,6932;000000000000 Mail-From: KPETERSEN created at 12-Aug-89 02:16:44 Return-Path: Date: Sat, 12 Aug 89 02:16:43 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #163 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Sat, 12 Aug 89 Volume 89 : Issue 163 Today's Topics: 32-bit Z80 code? Amstrad CP/M -software ?? Conversion of CP/M files to MS-DOS CP/M -- MS DOS conversion package TRS-80 vi source?? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 12 Aug 89 02:45:26 GMT From: uhccux!julian@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Julian Cowley) Subject: 32-bit Z80 code? Does anybody have Z80 assembly code that supports basic mathematical operations on 32-bit integers? I would like to use it in order to calculate 32-bit CRC's (for ZMODEM), so if anybody has any code that will do *that*, I'd be greatly obliged. Thanks! PS. I'm willing to trade for a 16-bit CRC routine in assembly, if that will help. julian@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu gnu emacs -- the editor that julian@uhccux.bitnet takes two newsgroups to pin down. ------------------------------ Date: 11 Aug 89 15:52:49 GMT From: phri!sim@nyu.edu (Kristian Simsarian) Subject: Amstrad CP/M -software ?? I am by no means a CP/M afficionado, but am looking for software (Public Domain / comercial) that runs on the "Amstrad" which apparently runs CP/M. My mother has bought some Word Processor that apparently is actually a real gp computer and runs CP/M. Now that she has some communication package and can talk to the outside I thought I would check on the net to see if anyone had heard of such a beast. If you know of any archives or places that supply software for these machines please send me mail. Apparently the machine is quite popular in Britain but never made it here. Thanks in advance, -- Kristian T. Simsarian Public Health Research Institute, NYC (212) 578-0-875 {allegra,philabs,cmcl2,rutgers}!phri!sim -or- phri!sim@uunet.uu.net sim@asparagine.phri.nyu.edu "There is no cure for the common code." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Aug 89 09:52:44 EST From: SAGE@LL.LL.MIT.EDU Subject: Conversion of CP/M files to MS-DOS There are a number of such products. My favorite is Uniform from Micro Solutions, Inc. 132 West Lincoln Highway DeKalb, IL 60115 (815) 756-3411 The product comes in versions that run on IBM-PC compatibles (so that they can read, write, and format CP/M-format diskettes) or on various CP/M machines (Televideo, Kaypro, SB180, and others) so that they can handle the formats for other CP/M machines AND so that they can read, write, and format simple MS-DOS 360K format DOS diskettes. Another product is MediaMaster from Intersecting Concepts 4573 Heatherglen Court Moorpark, CA 93021 (805) 529-5073 CIS (72145,1147) They offer versions that run on CP/M and MS-DOS computers. The main difference between Uniform and MediaMaster on the PC is that the latter only allows specific file operations to be carried out inside MediaMaster, while Uniform creates a virtual drive (with the next available disk letter) in the desired format, after which you can use all your favorite programs directly on the foreign-format diskette. Finally, there is also a public-domain or shareware program called 22DISK that is on most DOS BBS systems and is surely available from the archives at SIMETEL20. If you want to work on a CP/M system with MS-DOS diskettes, a unique product is DosDisk from Plu*Perfect Systems. It does what Uniform does on the PC, allowing you to use all your favorite software directly on the files on the DOS diskette. It is the only such utility for a CP/M machine that supports DOS subdirectories and maintains file date stamps (provided the CP/M system is running DateStamper or ZDOS). Bridger Mitchell (the author of DosDisk) reads this newsgroup and can answer any technical questions. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Aug 89 9:29:31 EDT From: Mack Goodman Subject: CP/M -- MS DOS conversion package This is in reply to the recent posting on conversion software. I suppose there are many packages, however I have just tried one ( shareware, or freeware, ) that seems to be very powerful. It is called 22disk. I got it from the simtel20 library. If you have access to the net you can get it. I think it is in PD1: 22dsk130.arc Otherwise you can write the company at sydex 153 north murphy ave sunnyvale ca 94086 ( 408) 739-4866 They only want 15.00 dollars to become a registered user. Hope you find this helpful Mack ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Aug 89 16:18:14 -0500 From: mknox@emx.utexas.edu (Margaret H. Knox) Subject: TRS-80 Luther, You've got either a Model-16 (most likely), a model-6000, or an upgraded Model-12. The major distinction (not important to you at this point) is whether the 68000 has a 6 or 8 Mhz crystal. Basically, all three of these are good reliable CP/M platforms (can run both CP/M-2.2 and CP/M-68K). You can also run TRSDOS (a Radio Shack operating system) and the multi-user XENIX (Unix clone) if you have enough memory and a hard disk. Give TriSoft a call at (512) 472-0744 for some free info, or send me your US Mail address. If you turn on the machine, the disks spin up, and the message INSERT DISKETTE shows up on the screen, then the thing is probably working (there is a self-test on powerup). ------------------------------ Date: 11 Aug 89 16:39:36+0200 From: Subject: vi source?? >X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (6.5.6 6/30/89) I also started porting STEVIE. I am now working on paring the code down to an acceptable subset (globbing instead of regex, elimination of fluffy, unused vi featuers). I am also thinking long and hard about memory allocation. The biggest problem with vi is modes. You can't configure vedit (for example) to look like vi, because vedit wants a META key before each and every command mode keystroke. Otherwise your're in insert (or change) mode. A final alternative (which I encourage some young, rambunctious hacker) is to take the source of, say vdo, and vee-eye-atize it. Any takers? -Mitch -Mitchell F. Wyle Institut fuer Informationssysteme wyle@inf.ethz.ch ETH Zentrum / 8092 Zurich, Switzerland +41 1 256 5237 ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V89 Issue #163 ************************************* 14-Aug-89 15:09:48-MDT,9656;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 14 Aug 89 15:00:07 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #164 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Mon, 14 Aug 89 Volume 89 : Issue 164 Today's Topics: Amstrad CP/M Software Any Files For Older Altos Computer? Bonzoed CP/M disk New CP/M mail server Utility to look at CP/M files vi source?? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Aug 89 15:23:04 EST From: SAGE@LL.LL.MIT.EDU Subject: Amstrad CP/M Software There are several types of Amstrad computer running CP/M. They are very popular in England, and in Europe in general. For a while Sears Roebuck was promoting them here in the US, and so there are actually quite a few around. The LocoScipt wordprocessor is actually rather nice, especially for beginners, and both of my children (9 and 13) have been happily using it for the past year. Ours is a PCW8256 that had an extra 256K or RAM chips added to convert it into what I think is called the PCW8512 (or, perhaps, it is PCW9512). In any case, the PCW series of machines runs CP/M-Plus and emulates one of the common terminals (H19, I believe, but I would have to look it up at home to be sure). This machine should run any public-domain or commercial software that is designed for CP/M-Plus, and that includes almost all CP/M software. The hardest thing is getting software onto the machine's unique 3" -- not the standard 3.5" -- diskettes. My wife bought the Amstrad specifically for production of the Z-System and other CP/M products that her company sells. I expected the machine to be nothing more than a toy but was most delightfully surprised to find that it is a very solid CP/M machine and, with its substantial RAM disk, an excellent platform for the Z-System. There is another series of Amstrad computers called CPC (464, 664, and 6128). They apparently run CP/M-2.2. I do not know very much about these machines, but I have a contact in Germany who runs a computer club, many of whose members have them. I gather from what he told me that they emulate a rather strange terminal that is not found on most software installation programs. Generally, however, there is little trouble in patching in the terminal codes, and I do have a list of them. I would recommend that you pick up either or both of the following files from the SIMTEL20 archives or from most CP/M remote access systems (commonly called BBSs): CPMSVL-D.LBR (CP/M Software Vendor List), CPMSRC-H.LZT (CP/M SouRCes). These files have lists of sources of commercial and free CP/M software. If you have access to the SIMTEL20 archives, then you can get thousands of files there that will run on your Amstrad. My wife has an excess of those ghastly expensive 3" Amstrad diskettes and will sell boxes of 10 for $45 plus $3 shipping per order. If you have no other way to get software, I would be willing to put a few files on the diskettes at no extra charge. For a small copying fee, I would be willing to convert any material you want from my Z-Node remote access sytem or from the Boston Computer Society ZI/TEL system (which supports MS-DOS and CP/M and also runs from my house). -- Jay Sage ------------------------------ Date: 12 Aug 89 00:16:54 GMT From: ndsuvm1.bitnet!ud069225@cunyvm.cuny.edu (Eric H. Romo) Subject: Any Files For Older Altos Computer? I have an Altos computer that was marketed under Moore Business System's label. I understand it runs with a Z80 chip and uses CPM, and it probably came out around the early 1980's. I'd like to make use of it alongside my Mac+. I understand the hard drive it has can't be easily interfaced to the Mac, but I'd like to make use of the Altos as best I can, including sending files back and forth to the Mac. What I'd like to know in general is what public domain or shareware programs are around for it, and can it run any garden variety CPM program(if such things exist). I have no manuals for the machine, plus I use my Mac+ for most everything. It's just that I got this Altos for cheap, and I'd like to explore what's out there for it, ESPECIALLY telecommunication programs and BBS host programs- I'm contemplating running a BBS off of it since it has a 8.5 Meg hard drive in it. I'd also like to know more about transferring files to and from my Mac+. Please send your replies to me: UD069225 at VM1.NODAK.EDU. Thanks for whatever you can come up with.. Eric. ------------------------------ Date: 12 Aug 89 18:33:20 GMT From: cica!ctrsol!ginosko!xanth!wilso_d@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (DeWitte Wilson) Subject: Bonzoed CP/M disk Hi. I somehow goofed up my CP/M disk for my Radio Shack Model II. I just bought the computer a few weeks ago. It has one drive and one Corvus hard disk (20 Meg). I have (had) a disk which I could boot up and it would go over to the hard disk. Everything was working fine until I ran some utility called TRS2CPM (or something like that on the TRS-DOS diskette), and it asked me to switch disks a few times and then it said something like "No Files Found". No, I don't know what I was doing, and I don't have a CP/M manual. Here is the problem - the system boots off of the floppy and looks like this : 63.00 K RADIO SHACK MODEL II CP/M VERSION 2.23F COPYRIGHT (C) 1981, 1982 BY ATON INTERNATIONAL, INC. COPYRIGHT (C) 1979 BY DIGITAL RESEARCH, INC. (serial number information) A>CLINK2 <- this is pulled from an autoexec.bat file --- CORVUS LINK INSTALLED --- A>C: <- also pulled from a file C> And that is all she wrote -- The system will not take ANY keyboard input. My other disks work okay (TRS-DOS), but the CP/M disk no longer takes input. I have the original disk and it doesn't boot at all. I'm lost, I know nothing about CP/M, and I haven't found anyone around here that has ever heard of ATON international. My theory -- somehow I must have messed up BDOS so that it no longer takes keyboard input. I also have Pickles and Trout CP/M, but it won't read an ATON disk.. TRS-DOS doesn't want to read it either. Thanks, ...dewitte -- DeWitte Wilson Old Dominion University CoSysop - The TrashBin BBS (tandy) 804-588-3013 [300=>2400] 8N1 - Micro Enhancements BBS (IBM & Mac) 804-424-1514 [300=>9600] 8N1 "Mind your own business Mr. Spock, I'm sick of your half-breed interference." ------------------------------ Date: 11 Aug 89 17:48:31 GMT From: ima!cfisun!lakart!rna@decvax.dec.com (Remote Network Archive) Subject: New CP/M mail server In article <647@lakart.UUCP>, by rna@lakart.UUCP (Remote Network Archive) I mentioned the new server on lakart.UUCP - what I forgot ( :-) ) was that the people who read this via the INFO-CPM mailing list _DON'T_ see the Usenet headers. So already I've had one request sent to my mailbox. My apologies for the confusion: the definitive address to use is: rna@lakart.uucp The following should reach it from Internet hosts: rna%lakart.uucp@xait.xerox.com -- rna@lakart.UUCP - Remote Network Archive +---+ IHS | +-+-+ ....... !harvard!xait!lakart!rna +-+-+ | AKA: rna%lakart.uucp@xait.xerox.com +---+ ------------------------------ Date: 14 Aug 89 16:36:28 GMT From: usc!orion.cf.uci.edu!swooldri@apple.com (Steve Wooldridge) Subject: Utility to look at CP/M files Earlier, I posted a note inquiring about availability of programs to read CP/M files on an MS-DOS machine. I received several invaluable responses. Now my problem is this: I had one diskette I was trying to read from CP/M and write to MS-DOS format. The package I was using (Xeno-Write) was unable to do this. When using a global search request (*.*) to read all files, it scrolled segments of a file on the screen. I am suspicious that the file was accidentally erased (if not, then the disk is damaged) and that the program was looking for the file address which was not there. Do there exist programs like Norton Utilities for the CP/M operating system? If so, I can look at the file and see if anything can be retrieved. Thanks in advance for any advice which might be rendered. Please respond directly to my internet address (but also feel free to post to the COMP.OS.CPM Usenet board. Steve Wooldridge University of California, Irvine Tel. 714.856.8380 ------------------------------ Date: 14 Aug 89 17:37:31 GMT From: hpl-opus!walker@hplabs.hp.com (Rick Walker) Subject: vi source?? / hpl-opus:comp.os.cpm / dbraun@cadev4.intel.com (Doug Braun ~) / 4:19 pm Aug 10, 1989 / > I started trying to port STEVIE (from its Minix version) to CP/M. > It is just too damm big, however. You would need some fancy > disk buffering scheme that would slow it way down. > > > Doug Braun Intel Corp CAD ---------- Consider the 'S' editor as presented with source code in Webb Miller's book "A Software Tools Sampler", published by Prentice-Hall. It is a good VI clone and is both well written and easy to understand. It also fits well on a CP/M system. Rick Walker ...!hplabs!walker ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V89 Issue #164 ************************************* 17-Aug-89 05:07:08-MDT,8068;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 17 Aug 89 05:00:24 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #165 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Thu, 17 Aug 89 Volume 89 : Issue 165 Today's Topics: Any Cromemco Owners Out There? Guess that escape code... INFO-CPM Digest V89 #164 - CP/M conversion KAYPRO PIGGY-BACK BOARD Power supply connector on 1/2 height NEC 8" drives Question for BDOS guru Utility to look at CP/M files xmodem/kermit ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 16 Aug 89 10:41:59 -0400 From: gonzalez@BBN.COM Subject: Any Cromemco Owners Out There? I have a NorthStar Horizon for which I have been attempting to obtain a soft-sector controller. I located one, but one of the conditions of the sale was that I had to take the whole computer. So, now I am the proud owner of a Cromemco System Three, with 64K of RAM, a parallel interface, and a soft-sector controller. It can accomodate up to four 8" floppy drives. It came with one drive (a PerSci 277), which is reportedly broken. So, now I need to locate a compatible 8" drive. The controller will take 8" or 5-1/4", but the OS is on 8" floppies. At least the ROM-based monitor will help me. The plan was to get the controller and drive working on the Cromemco and then transplant to the NorthStar. The Cromemco is *so* nice, though, that I may ditch the NorthStar. It's good to have a *standard* S-100 bus, too. So, does anyone else on the list have a Cromemco System? Is the company still in business? They had a UNIX knockoff, apparently. Anybody have a copy I could buy or duplicate? The supplied OS is supposed to be call compatible with CP/M 1.3 applications. Any applications? I at least need a terminal emulator/file transfer package if I'm to start getting stuff from the archives. -Jim. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim Gonzalez ARPA/UUCP: gonzalez@bbn.com BBN Systems and Technologies Corp. AT&T: 617-873-2937 Cambridge, Massachusetts ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Aug 89 23:15 PDT From: Steven Russell Subject: Guess that escape code... I needs a little help. I am trying to patch a program for my TeleVideo TPC-1 that originally was designed to run on an Osborne 1. Near the top of the program are two escape sequences that I am unfamiliar with. They are j and k (1B 6A and 1B 6B). Does anyone out there know what these escape codes do for an Osborne, or similar terminal? These codes are not in the Osborne manual, and I am stumped! -Steven Russell srussell@uoneuro.uoregon.edu srussell@uoneuro.bitnet ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Aug 89 22:02:17 PDT From: johnlee@pnet01.cts.com (John Wiley) Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #164 - CP/M conversion Steve Wooldridge noted that upon examining his disks using a utility, he found fragmented files. It may not be relevant in this case, but I encountered a similar problem in converting a "dinosaur" disk to MS-DOS. It was due to an interleave of 5:1 on the SSDD floppy of the older machine. This means that files written by the old machine were "chopped up" when read on the PC. To discover what the interleave factor was, I created a large file on the old machine, with line numbers. By studying the sequence of the file as read by the PC, I was able to discern the 5:1 ratio. Another possibility might be that the older machine is fragmenting the files for optimum disk usage. If so, a solution might be to copy the disk onto a new disk on the old machine before reading it on the PC. This would likely produce unfragmented files (but wouldn't solve any interleave problem). I hope this will help. **John Wiley San Diego, California UUCP: {hplabs!hp-sdd, sdcsvax, nosc}!crash!pnet01!johnlee ARPA: crash!pnet01!johnlee@nosc.mil INET: johnlee@pnet01.CTS.COM ------------------------------ Date: 13 Aug 89 02:21:22 GMT From: cs.utexas.edu!usc!oxy!xenobiotica@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Espenschied) Subject: KAYPRO PIGGY-BACK BOARD I have a Kaypro 1, circa 1981. I have heard that there is a company that puts out a piggy-back motherboard that not only makes the K-1/2/4 roughly ibm-compatible, but raises the memory when it's running in ibm-mode to the order of 256k. While not essential, this could definitely be a good thing. if you have heard of this product (i know it is or at least was out there) or of the company that makes it, please drop me a line. -thanx, jon ...cit-vax!oxy.edu!xenobiotica ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Aug 89 08:49:38 EST From: wilker@gauss.math.purdue.edu (Clarence Wilkerson) Subject: Power supply connector on 1/2 height NEC 8" drives I bought a pair of used NEC drives recently. The power connector is not one of the standard Shugart type connectors, but rather is a row of pins with a push on connector. Does anyone know about the pinouts? Thanks, Clarence Wilkerson. ------------------------------ Date: 16 Aug 89 21:40:30 GMT From: hpl-opus!hpnmdla!hpsad!jon@hplabs.hp.com (Jon Aldrich) Subject: Question for BDOS guru Any DRI people reading this, or any BDOS gurus, out there? I have a specific question about my flavor of BDOS. I'm running cp/m-68k on an hp series 200 machine. The system documentation specifies support for an HP9133A hard drive. I have access to an HP9133H. Can my BDOS be modified to support this later model (more bytes) disc drive? I've tried partitioning the 'H' into smaller units comparable to the 'A' but I get solid disc errors when I try to use it. Anyone have any clues? Jon "cp/m neophyte" Aldrich jon@hpsadpk.HP.COM ------------------------------ Date: 16 Aug 89 11:44:27 GMT From: ssbell!mcmi!amperif!unocss!mlewis@uunet.uu.net (Marcus S. Lewis) Subject: Utility to look at CP/M files From article <2505@orion.cf.uci.edu>, by swooldri@orion.cf.uci.edu (Steve Wooldridge): .... > Do there exist programs like Norton Utilities for the CP/M operating system? > If so, I can look at the file and see if anything can be retrieved. Check out DU-V80. THis is a PD absolute disk sector editor. I have run it on at least three different machines, and it seems to be very good, as long as you know what you are doing. You need to know the directory layout, and how to read control blocks and such, but it's pretty slick. You can edit in ASCII or hex at a minimum. It won't follow the sector allocation sequence, you have to do that yourself. Simtel20 ought to have it, but I couldn't tell you where it might be. I think it should be available on all CP/M BBS's. Good Luck Marc -- Na khuya mne podpis'? | Internet: cs057@zeus.unl.edu | UUCP: uunet!btni!unocss!mlewis Go for it! | Bitnet: CS057@UNOMA1 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Aug 89 13:51 EST From: (Lassaiz les bon temps rouler!) Subject: xmodem/kermit Hello all, I am trying to locate a copy of xmodem or Kermit that will run on a Kaypro cp/m machine. Does anyone out there have a copy or know where I could obtain one? Any help would be *greatly* appreciated! Thank you, Dan Henderson Computing Consultant, Boston College ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V89 Issue #165 ************************************* 21-Aug-89 14:12:35-MDT,6946;000000000000 Mail-From: KPETERSEN created at 21-Aug-89 14:01:52 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 21 Aug 89 14:01:51 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #166 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Mon, 21 Aug 89 Volume 89 : Issue 166 Today's Topics: Guess that escape code... INFO-CPM Digest V89 #165 - forward of address inquiry Morrow Computers, WordStar, etc. Need information on Diablo/Xerox 3000 Question for BDOS guru Utility to look at CP/M files ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 17 Aug 89 20:34:03 GMT From: pacbell!sactoh0!ianj@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Ian R. Justman) Subject: Guess that escape code... In article <8908160706.AA10669@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, SRUSSELL@UONEURO.UOREGON.EDU (Steven Russell) writes: > I needs a little help. I am trying to patch a program for my TeleVideo > TPC-1 that originally was designed to run on an Osborne 1. Near the top > of the program are two escape sequences that I am unfamiliar with. They > are j and k (1B 6A and 1B 6B). Does anyone out there know what > these escape codes do for an Osborne, or similar terminal? These codes > are not in the Osborne manual, and I am stumped! > Don't worry about miodifying your program to accomodate your Televideo. They both use standard ADM-3A sequences. However, you might want to keep your eyes open for ESC-Gx sequences, but I doubt the Osborne supports those sequences. Otherwise, you really don't need to modify your program. Have fun (Or at least try to... :) -- Home: Ian Justman |UUCP: |"One of the few 6612 Whitsett Drive | |die-hard CP/M North Highlands, CA 95660| pacbell!sactoh0!ianj |addicts left on this (916) 344-5360 | |planet" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 89 23:28:56 PDT From: johnlee@pnet01.cts.com (John Wiley) Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #165 - forward of address inquiry I received an inquiry as to how to reach the moderator of INFO CPM from Jonathan Hawes. Due to my inexperience with routing, I thought it might be best to use the automatic mailer here to pass the inquiry on to you. I hope this is the best course of action. The address Mr. Hawes gave is: jhanos@cup.portal.com **John Wiley San Diego, California UUCP: {hplabs!hp-sdd, sdcsvax, nosc}!crash!pnet01!johnlee ARPA: crash!pnet01!johnlee@nosc.mil INET: johnlee@pnet01.CTS.COM ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Aug 89 11:12:02 EDT From: Tim Evans Subject: Morrow Computers, WordStar, etc. >From: osu-20.ircc.ohio-state.edu!phillips-e@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (earl) >Subject: MORROW DESIGNS CPM SYSTEM > >Can anyone out there help me in trying to figure out my >Morrow Designs CPM system? I have recently entered the >world of computers new, and acquired the system >serendipitously. I have down most of the basic machine >commands, but am having trouble with the "Wordstar" >software; specifically, how to retain newly-made files >on another disk for future data entry. Any suggestions? > There are a couple of things you can do. (It sounds like you got the system, but not the documentation.) First, call Oakland, CA directory assistance and ask for a company called "Silicon Valley Surplus." SVS bought Morrow's inventory when Morrow when bankrupt. Although this has now been 3 or 4 years, you still may be able to get Morrow documentation from them--assuming the company itself still exists. :-) Second, check your local bookstore or public library for books on WordStar. There are many, but be sure to look for the older (i.e., pre-Version 3) ones. If you're willing to spend a few bucks, the WordStar Company (formerly called Micropro) still sells Version 4.0 of WordStar for CP/M computers, inlcuding Morrow's. Price is < $100. Call 1-800-555-1212 and ask for an 800 number for "WordStar International" (or "Micropro"). Good Luck. -- UUCP: ...uunet!cp1!aplcen!wb3ffv!fallst!tkevans INTERNET: tkevans%fallst@wb3ffv.ampr.org OTHER: ...!attmail!fallst!tkevans Tim Evans 2201 Brookhaven Court, Fallston, MD 21047 (301) 965-3286 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 89 19:30:55 EDT From: mbeck@ai.mit.edu (Mark Becker) Subject: Need information on Diablo/Xerox 3000 Hello all - I have nearby a working Diablo/Xerox model 3000 word processing unit. It came with several single-sided 8" diskettes, none of which can be read on my trusty old XOR S100 machine with it's WD1797-based disk controller. One of the diskettes is labelled CP/M-80. Thats the good news. The bad news is the system doesn't recognize the disk. The hope is to convert this system for use as a BBS for the hearing impaired. To do this, I have been hunting for a technical manual. I would like to know the backplane pinout and I/O port addressing for the serial/parallel ports present on the machine. I have been on the phone to one division of Diablo/Xerox after another. I have been shuttled from one long distance call to another, finally completing the "loop" by the last-called division saying to contact the first-called division. The machine _is_ old; circa 1980. But I am hoping someone _out there_ knows something about it or can refer me to the _right place_. Your help is appreciated. Please e-mail your information. If there is any interest, I will summarize to the group. Regards, Mark Becker mbeck@wheaties.ai.mit.edu ------------------------------ Date: 18 Aug 89 16:41:54 GMT From: hpl-opus!hpnmdla!hpsad!jon@hplabs.hp.com (Jon Aldrich) Subject: Question for BDOS guru It has been pointed out to me that what I really need to do is modify BIOS instead of BDOS . . . silly me :-o). So any cp/m-68k BIOS gurus out there? humbly, jon "neophyte+" aldrich jon@hpsad ------------------------------ Date: 21 Aug 89 18:48:20 GMT From: oliveb!mipos3!cadev4!dbraun@apple.com (Doug Braun ~) Subject: Utility to look at CP/M files Does anyone know if there is a version of the DU-type programs that works with CP/M 3? (Thanks, Bob Haar). The program DUU, which I have used for a long time on CP/M 2.2 crashes on 3.0 because the 3.0 BIOS disk routines handle physical sector sizes larger than 128 bytes directly. Doug Braun Intel Corp CAD 408 765-4279 / decwrl \ | hplabs | -| oliveb |- !intelca!mipos3!cadev4!dbraun | amd | \ qantel / ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V89 Issue #166 ************************************* 21-Aug-89 20:04:08-MDT,9359;000000000000 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 21 Aug 89 20:00:18 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #167 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Mon, 21 Aug 89 Volume 89 : Issue 167 Today's Topics: ANY CROMEMCO OWNERS OUT THERE? CP/M ftp sites? Dynabyte peripherals/manuals Morrow Computers, WordStar, etc. Onyx computers, help Power supply connector on 1/2 height NEC 8" drives ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 18 Aug 89 18:18:00 GMT From: jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!utgpu!utzoo!mnetor!tmsoft!masnet!f1.n250.z1.fidonet.org!winston.yu@rutgers.edu (winston yu) Subject: ANY CROMEMCO OWNERS OUT THERE? Sorry can't help you. I also have a North Star Horizon which is still running. The clerks in my wife's office use it everyday for the past seven or eight years. It has standard 64K a 5.25" floopy drive and a 5M hard drive. The hard drive is very sloooow compare to the new hard drive. It has a filing handling system called FMS80. They call it a database (this term is abused too often). Two years ago I bought a IBM AT clone for the office, but they get so used to the Horizon, that they refuse to use the AT clone. --- D'Bridge 1.21 * Origin: | Colour Dragon VI | D'Bridge/TBBS | (416)-823-4521| (1:250/1) ------------------------------ Date: 18 Aug 89 15:10:02 GMT From: agate!bionet!csd4.csd.uwm.edu!mailrus!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!utgpu!watmath!julian!uwovax!2014_5001@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU Subject: CP/M ftp sites? Are there any ftp sites other than Simtel20 that store CP/M80 software? I am running on an 8086 (soon-to-be v30 if I find z80 software worth running) system with CP/M emulator. -- Alexander Pruss, at one of: Department of Applied Mathematics, Astronomy, Mathematics, or Physics University of Western Ontario pruss@uwovax.uwo.ca pruss@uwovax.BITNET A5001@nve.uwo.ca ------------------------------ Date: 21 Aug 89 07:25:34 GMT From: amdahl!pacbell!sactoh0!ianj@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Ian R. Justman) Subject: Dynabyte peripherals/manuals A while ago, I got these S100 systems (I posted something about it), but I don't have complete documentation. For instance, the CP/M 2.2 implementation on this machine has minimal documentation, which covers features, and how to use "Dyanasys", which configures which port does what, what drive is the warm boot drive, etc. In fact, it also said that the manual therein was under development. I would very much appreciate finding out who has it and how I can obtain doc's. Plus, I have a few cards in my machine whick are without documentation, like my hard drive controller, and a multiple serial port card. I would also like documenation and specifications, as well as some schematics. What I have is: 1 Dynabyte DB8/1 CPU card 1 Dynabyte Winchester controller card 1 Dynabyte floppy controller (w/Western Digital's 1781 LSI FDC) 1 Dynabyte Octaport set up for four ports 1 Dynabyte 64K dynamic ram card 3 Dynabyte 48K dynamic ram cards (These and the Octaport are needed to run MP/M with 4 users) 1 Shugart SA851 8" DSDD floppy drive 1 Fujitsu M2301B 8" two-platter 10-megabyte Winchester drive If anyone can help me, I will be eternally grateful!!! Thanks in advance either way. -- Home: Ian Justman |UUCP: |"One of the few 6612 Whitsett Drive | |die-hard CP/M North Highlands, CA 95660| pacbell!sactoh0!ianj |addicts left on this (916) 344-5360 | |planet" ------------------------------ Date: 21 Aug 89 16:50:27 GMT From: ubvax!ardent!peck!rap@lll-winken.llnl.gov (Rob Peck) Subject: Morrow Computers, WordStar, etc. >From: osu-20.ircc.ohio-state.edu!phillips-e@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (earl) >Subject: MORROW DESIGNS CPM SYSTEM > >Can anyone out there help me in trying to figure out my >Morrow Designs CPM system? I have recently entered the >world of computers new, and acquired the system >serendipitously. I have down most of the basic machine >commands, but am having trouble with the "Wordstar" >software; specifically, how to retain newly-made files >on another disk for future data entry. Any suggestions? CP/M normally tries to prevent you from writing to a disk that was not in the drive the most recent time that the drive was accessed. However, Wordstar does have a command called "Log A New Disk". Look on the Control-K menu (press and hold the control Key, and then press and release the K key) and wait for the menus to come up. I think the correct combination is ^KL. You can then remove the disk from drive B, and insert a new disk for reading and writing files. I don't believe that this can be done in the middle of an edit session, (WHILE you are actually editing a file), but you can do this in between file edits. You cannot remove the "A" disk while editing because the Wordstar messages are coming from it while you are editing. If you want to move a file from one disk onto a new disk to that you can edit it there (where it is less crowded), use the PIP command as follows: 1. Make sure you know which file name you wish to copy on the source disk. 2. Reset your system, (^C) with your master CP/M disk in the A: drive and the destination (freshly formatted/initialized disk in drive B: 3. Issue the command PIP 4. The PIP prompt appears on the screen. When your disk activity light goes out, remove the A (master) disk and insert your source disk. 5. Type: b:=a:filename.ext[v] The file gets copied to the new disk. Notice that this does not violate CP/M's disk-change rules because the new disk you inserted is read-only and that is all you are doing to it. The B disk was in the drive when the system was reset, so as long as it is not itself write protected, you can copy to it. 6. Reinsert your master disk into the A drive, and type ^C (Control-C) to exit PIP. How much (if any) Morrow documentation did you get with the system? I don't have a Morrow, but did buy SOME of its docs at a computer swap meet because I have a Kaypro and it runs most Morrow software. For a small fee I may be willing to part with some of the docs that I do have. Rob Peck ------------------------------ Date: 21 Aug 89 13:34:17 GMT From: sumax!polari!corwin@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Don Glover) Subject: Onyx computers, help I am the proud owner of two onyx cpm/mpm/oasis computers, a onyx 5000 which is a single user 64k cpm system with a 20meg hard disk and a onyx 8000 which is 4 user oasis/mpm system with 128k and a 20 meg hard disk. Currently these systems have no floppy drives in them. My problems is that I can find no docs for these systems anywhere. Both run as they are (booting from the hard disk), but I would like to implement UZI or something similar on them and need low level technical specs on them. Also would like to to add floppies to them and need some tech specs on them to do so. If anyone out there has some docs for these systems I would appreciate hearing from you. Thanx in advance! Don Glover, the younger ------------------------------ Date: 20 Aug 89 18:44:46 GMT From: ncrlnk!ncr-sd!crash!mwilson@uunet.uu.net (Marc Wilson) Subject: Power supply connector on 1/2 height NEC 8" drives In article <8908161349.AA29070@gauss.math.purdue.edu> wilker@GAUSS.MATH.PURDUE.EDU (Clarence Wilkerson) writes: >I bought a pair of used NEC drives recently. The power connector is not >one of the standard Shugart type connectors, but rather is a row of pins >with a push on connector. Does anyone know about the pinouts? I have a manual for the FD1165, from NEC. The power connector on that one matches the one you describe, so I assume that it's the same drive. Anyway, here's the pinout: 1 -DC +24 v 2 -- Ground 3 -- DC +5 v 4 -- Ground 5 -- N/C 6 -- N/C 7 -- FG ( Frame Ground ) If you need it, I have both the product description and e maintenance manual for the drive. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Marc Wilson ARPA: ...!crash!mwilson@nosc.mil ...!crash!pnet01!pro-sol!mwilson@nosc.mil UUCP: [ cbosgd | hp-sdd!hplabs | sdcsvax | nosc ]!crash!mwilson INET: mwilson@crash.CTS.COM ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: 21-AUG-1989 13:31:14 GMT From: ZMESP04%vaxa.cc.imperial.ac.uk@NSFnet-Relay.AC.UK Subject: VT100 terminal emulator for Amstrad PCW 8256 Does anybody know if and how I could use my Amstrad PCW 8256 word processor as a VT100 terminal? Are there any VT-100 emulators around? Please reply directly to me, as I am not a member of the list to the address below: @nsfnet-relay.ac.uk:zmesp04@vaxa.cc.ic.ac.uk Thanks , Stella ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V89 Issue #167 ************************************* 24-Aug-89 18:53:34-MDT,5006;000000000000 Mail-From: KPETERSEN created at 24-Aug-89 18:38:23 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 24 Aug 89 18:38:22 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #168 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Thu, 24 Aug 89 Volume 89 : Issue 168 Today's Topics: Any Files For Older Altos Computer? BDOS Guru for CP/M-68K Trashed CP/M diskette writing PC-DOS disks on a Kaypro ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 23 Aug 89 06:28:56 GMT From: ndsuvm1.bitnet!ud069225@cunyvm.cuny.edu (Eric H. Romo) Subject: Any Files For Older Altos Computer? I recently learned that my Altos is a Altos 8000-10, which is running OASIS system(v 5.5) but it can be made to run MPM via switching some jumpers. Can anyone add anymore as to where and what I can get software to run on this machine if/when I can convert it to MPM(Multiple CPM, I'm told)? Thanks. Eric. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 89 21:21:24 -0500 From: mknox@emx.utexas.edu (Margaret H. Knox) Subject: BDOS Guru for CP/M-68K Jon, you are looking for the right thing, in the wrong place. The tables that (SHOULD) control the disk size and configuration are the DPH (disk parameter header) and DPB (disk parameter block). They are located in the BIOS, which is unique to each machine type you are using. The BDOS and CCP doesn't change from machine to machine (at least, not for a particular version of CP/M-68K). You can get SOME idea of the DPH and DPB from the DSK: display of the STAT command. To really look at the tables you need to do the following: Bring up DDT Punch in a little program to do a SELECT DISK BIOS function 9 The value returned in Reg. D0.L is a pointer to the DPH. Eight words into the DPH is a pointer to the DPB. Pretty much everything the system knows about your disk is contained in these two tables. If you have source to the BIOS, modifying it for a bigger disk (or partitioning it) is trivial. If not, it can be a challenge. One problem is that the CSV and ALV may need to be increased in size for a bigger disk. For further information, check pages 24 and 40-45 of the CP/M-68K SYSTEM manual (note: page numbers may vary, I am looking in an old manual). Luck ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 89 21:02:21 -0500 From: mknox@emx.utexas.edu (Margaret H. Knox) Subject: Trashed CP/M diskette I had to read the letter twice to get it all straight (I think). And I believe I know what happened to your diskette. As I interpret things, you had a Model-II with a copy of ATON CP/M booted, and tried to run a program called TRS2CPM. That is a Pickles& Trout program, which assumes certain things about the system ... no telling *WHAT* it did to any diskette it found lurking around. ATON was (is?) a company that sold CP/M for the Model-II, etc. They made a very TECHNICALLY good product (extremely fast, and found several hardware features in the machines that even TANDY didn't know were there). Their documentation and general quality control were nowhere near the level of Pickles&Trout, however, and as a result they never sold more than a small fraction of what P&T did. You're right, they all used a number of different disk formats (standard??? what's that?). P&T got more storage from a diskette, but will not read Lifeboat or ATON diskettes (except in the common SSSD interchange CP/M standard). It ALSO sounds like you may have a CORVUS hard disk. ***BIG PROBLEM*** I could probably salvage your ATON disk from some of the stuff I have around TriSoft (and we can certainly supply replacement P&T disks and manuals), but we have NOTHING for the CORVUS hard disks. ATON International *may* still be around, although I do not have their address handy. Maybe someone else can help with that. ------------------------------ Date: 23 Aug 89 17:34:47 GMT From: pilchuck!amc-gw!sigma!flash!bill@uunet.uu.net (William Swan) Subject: writing PC-DOS disks on a Kaypro In article garry@retix.retix.retix.com (Garry Star) writes: }Does anyone have a public domain program that allows a Kaypro to }write MS/PC-DOS disks? I (actually, my mother) has need for this also. Her alternative is to sell the Kaypro and buy a PC-clone. :-( -- Bill Swan entropy.ms.washington.edu!sigma!bill Send postal address for info: Innocent but in prison in Washington State for 13.5 years: Ms. Debbie Runyan: incarcerated 01/1989, scheduled release 07/2002. In now: 0 years, 7 months, 0 weeks, 3 days. ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V89 Issue #168 ************************************* 28-Aug-89 10:58:26-MDT,2667;000000000000 Mail-From: KPETERSEN created at 28-Aug-89 10:54:39 Return-Path: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 89 10:54:39 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #169 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Mon, 28 Aug 89 Volume 89 : Issue 169 Today's Topics: Current version of ZSM? Writing PC-DOS Disks on a Kaypro (2 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 27 Aug 89 22:56:20 GMT From: uhccux!julian@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Julian Cowley) Subject: Current version of ZSM? I have been trying to get in contact with David Goodenough, the author of ZSM, but to no avail. I would like to know what the latest version of the assembler is, since from what I understand the version on simtel (3.2) is not the latest. Anyone know if there is a later version, and if so, where it may be obtained? Thanks! julian@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu julian@uhccux.bitnet ------------------------------ Date: 22 Aug 89 21:10:47 GMT From: oliveb!pyramid!prls!philabs!ttidca!retix!garry@bbn.com (Garry Star) Subject: writing PC-DOS disks on a Kaypro I have a friend that wants to transfer several disks worth of data from her Kaypro to an IBM due to laser printer access. Does anyone have a public domain program that allows a Kaypro to write MS/PC-DOS disks? Any pointers (or executables) would be greatly appreciated. Please reply via mail since I am not a subscriber to this group. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Garry Star, Retix, (213) 399-2200 garry@retix.retix.com X.400 C=US; ADMD=ATTMAIL; PRMD=RETIXX400; S=Star; G=Garry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Aug 89 09:28:59 EST From: SAGE@LL.LL.MIT.EDU Subject: Writing PC-DOS Disks on a Kaypro Bill Swan and others asked about public domain programs to allow reading and writing MS-DOS disks on a Kaypro. Why does it have to be public domain? If you have a TurboROM or KROM, you can use the marvelous DosDisk from Plu*Perfect. It costs only $30, hardly a lot of money to make the machine useful. With DosDisk, one of the Kaypro drives will act just like an MS-DOS drive: you can use all your standard programs to access files on the disk. DosDisk is unique in giving you access not only to the root directory of the DOS disk but to all subdirectories as well. -- Jay Sage ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V89 Issue #169 ************************************* 30-Aug-89 22:53:49-MDT,5821;000000000000 Mail-From: KPETERSEN created at 30-Aug-89 22:44:39 Return-Path: Date: Wed, 30 Aug 89 22:44:38 MDT From: INFO-CPM-REQUEST@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Reply-To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL Subject: INFO-CPM Digest V89 #170 To: INFO-CPM@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL INFO-CPM Digest Wed, 30 Aug 89 Volume 89 : Issue 170 Today's Topics: Any IMS users out there? BBS program Conversion of CP/M(?) files to MS-DOS need help (1st): tatung tp2000 Writing PC-DOS Disks on a Kaypro ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 30 Aug 89 17:56:30 GMT From: meltzer@sun.com (Sandy Meltzer) Subject: Any IMS users out there? I have some extra IMS (Industrial Micro Systems) equipment you might be interested in. I recently acquired an IMS 8000-SX system with tape backup and 5 IMS 740 multi-user slave cards. I have an older model 8000 which has been running my house for the last seven years and would be intereted in selling or trading the extra equipment. Anyone interested? Call me at (work)415-336-6829 or (home)408-257-5383. -- Sanford "Sandy" Meltzer UUCP: {decvax,decwrl,seismo}!sun!meltzer ARPA: meltzer@sun.com (or meltzer@sun.arpa) "Go for it! - you're only dollars away..." ------------------------------ Date: 30 Aug 89 05:05:30 GMT From: dispatch%ncsuvm.BITNET@jade.Berkeley.EDU Subject: BBS program Does anyone know of a multi-sig BBS program that will run on a Kaypro 4 with no HD (I'm looking towards a Message only board, no D/L's). Please reply in this SIG. Thanks K-9 MK IV ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Aug 89 08:33 EDT From: Subject: Conversion of CP/M(?) files to MS-DOS After seeing the discussion on file conversion, I'd thought I'd give my current problem a shot. Has anybody heard of an NEC PC 9801 and is it a CP/M machine? The basic situation is this; My boss is trying to put together a book with various authors writing individual chapters. One hope of the publisher was to have all the chapters on disk (and in the same format) so that the typesetting, etc. would be easier. One of the authors sent us his chapter on a 2SHD diskette from the NEC PC 9801, using Wordstar version 4.0. I called NEC here in the states and the guy said that he's never heard of it and that the parent company in Japan sells a completely different line of pc's. If it is a CP/M machine will any of the previously mentioned conversion software (Uniform, Media- Master, 22DSK do the job? I should mention, the only CP/M capable machine we have is the DEC Rainbow, with the RX50 drives. We have several MS-DOS computers around, with both 360K and 1.2 MB drives avail- able. Please respond directly if possible. Thanks. John Grady Chemistry Dept. University of N.H j_grady@unhh.bitnet ------------------------------ Date: 30 Aug 89 23:48:34 GMT From: mcsun!unido!cosmo2!fifi%cosmo.UUCP@uunet.uu.net (A.F.Zinser) Subject: need help (1st): tatung tp2000 hello, a friend of mine asked me to place a request concerning a tatung cp/m- machine to this group. he looks for contact to other tatung-users and has some troubles as follows: - as described in the manual, there should be a possibility to add a third disk-drive; but doing so, the controller sets all four select- outputs to high-level instead only drive-select-2. the disk controller should be a wd1793, but a MB8877A (fairchild?) is built-in. who knows anything about that problem or can tell us anything about that chip? - other problems are to install a 2-mb-ramdisk and/or a 27-mb-harddisk. it also should be possible (manual), but there's no description, how. please contact me, if you could help us and/or you're tatung-user too. thanks in advance, axel zinser +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | _ _ ! ! Axel F. Zinser (_!_) (_!_) ...uunet!mcvax!unido!cosmo!fifi | ! Hannover, W-Germany ! ! fifi@cosmo.UUCP ! ! ! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: 28 Aug 89 17:36:42 GMT From: pilchuck!amc-gw!sigma!flash!bill@uunet.uu.net (William Swan) Subject: Writing PC-DOS Disks on a Kaypro In article <8908260703.AA26950@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> SAGE@LL.LL.MIT.EDU writes: >Bill Swan and others asked about public domain programs to allow reading >and writing MS-DOS disks on a Kaypro. Why does it have to be public domain? >If you have a TurboROM or KROM, you can use the marvelous DosDisk from >Plu*Perfect. It costs only $30, hardly a lot of money to make the machine >useful. [...] Speaking strictly for myself, it does not have to be public domain. It just seemed more likely to be p/d than to be a commercial product. Be that as it may - the Kaypro in question is vanilla, so where can I get a "TurboROM" or "KROM", and how much is *that*? (Also, do you have an address for Plu*Perfect?) -- Bill Swan entropy.ms.washington.edu!sigma!bill Send postal address for info: Innocent but in prison in Washington State for 13.5 years: Ms. Debbie Runyan: incarcerated 01/1989, scheduled release 07/2002. In now: 0 years, 7 months, 1 week, 1 day. ------------------------------ End of INFO-CPM Digest V89 Issue #170 *************************************